From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17802 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Harris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Intermittent problem with gnus and Gmail POP3 Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 16:12:15 -0800 Message-ID: <874mflsxb4.fsf@facilitatedsystems.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450102919 8609 80.91.229.3 (14 Dec 2015 14:21:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:21:59 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 14 15:21:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Tzu-0003RK-Gx for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:21:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60299 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Tzt-0008Q0-VV for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:21:05 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:12:16 -0600 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JjXDYlaMoRxK/EzcLkcCW57mQcI= Original-Lines: 113 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 50.34.106.222 Original-X-Trace: sv3-F89UAIx44DQ2JIxTKwP8Ic+qdOB4Sz05j3z697X7PjQRACsqQIZPmUqGzXAKWGlDzBxP/W4CgDhuriK!QXFGJcxw/vbJ+RdkISijJtEjDagGKRJSnC9swMgDMZKtNH8Vz7khSW+qwfLR9Ddrj017W5KpGt5n!45gzRY+Drxdlx206AYmMLucHYP8= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4293 X-Received-Bytes: 4405 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1245019500 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:88932 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:21:04 -0500 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17802 Archived-At: Starting about a year or more ago, I've had increasing intermittent problems with accessing my gmail account with gnus via POP3 (https://osdir.com/ml/info-gnus-english-gnu/2014-07/msg00049.html). Does anyone have any suggestions? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My intent: Read mail via POP3 into gnus using a secure protocol, leaving downloaded mail on gmail, too. Send email via SMTP on gmail using a secure protocol. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My problem: when I'm downloading, perhaps 90% of the time, I get this message in the mini-buffer: ,---- | Mail source (pop :server pop.gmail.com :port 995 :user ********@gmail.com :password ******** :stream ssl) error (POP SSL connexion failed). Continue? (yes or no) `---- If I don't get that message, it works just fine. When I'm sending a message, about 90% of the time, I get ,---- | POP SSL connexion failed `---- If I don't get that message, it works just fine. It's inconsistent: sometimes it works fine for quite a while, and sometimes it doesn't for quite a while. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My local POP3 configuration: ,----[ set via customize in the Mail Source group ] | mail-sources's value is | ((pop :server "pop.gmail.com" :port 995 :user "****@gmail.com" :password "***" :stream ssl)) `---- That seems consistent with https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/6323470?hl=en&ref_topic=3397961#ts=1665162 and http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusGmail#toc7. My gmail POP3 configuration: - Forwarding: Disable forwarding - Status: POP is enabled for all mail .... - When messages are accessed with POP mark Gmail's copy as read - Status: IMAP is disabled. - Access for less secure apps (I've tried 'Turn off' and 'Turn on', to no avail) The Pop3 group has more set: ,---- | '(pop3-leave-mail-on-server nil) `---- I don't want that, as I said, but that doesn't seem to create a problem, since I've told gmail simply to mark downloaded email as read, not to delete it. I also can't imagine that this affects my ability to download email, so I'm leaving it alone for now. It sounds like I want to change that later, though, just for safety. My customize section of my .emacs has ,---- | '(read-mail-command (quote gnus)) `---- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My local SMTP configuration: ,----[ in my .gnus ] | (require 'tls) `---- ,----[ in the customize section of my .emacs ] | '(smtpmail-auth-credentials (quote (("smtp.gmail.com" 587 "********@gmail.com" "********")))) | '(smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.gmail.com") | '(smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.gmail.com") | '(smtpmail-smtp-service 587) | '(smtpmail-starttls-credentials (quote (("smtp.gmail.com" 587 "" "")))) `---- That seems consistent with http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusGmail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My environment: ,---- | Debian 7.9 | Gnus v5.13 | GNU Emacs 23.4.1 `---- Does anyone see anything I'm missing? Thanks, Bill -- Bill Harris