From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17540 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Enrico Schumann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: newbie spam filtering with gnus Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:53:56 +0200 Message-ID: <874moypdiz.fsf@enricoschumann.net> References: <87ego44m0v.fsf@stevenarntson.com> <87zj6r8npr.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428000876 20855 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2015 18:54:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 18:54:36 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 02 20:54:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YdkFs-0008N2-IS for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:54:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59846 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdkFn-0007VO-4Y for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:54:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdkFk-0007TM-6W for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdkFg-0007HN-1i for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:54:08 -0400 Original-Received: from www231.your-server.de ([188.40.28.11]:35237) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdkFf-0007HB-S7 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [88.198.220.131] (helo=sslproxy02.your-server.de) by www231.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YdkFf-0003GP-B6 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:54:03 +0200 Original-Received: from [188.61.221.110] (helo=radiance.enricoschumann.net) by sslproxy02.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YdkFb-0004zf-Vy for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:54:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zj6r8npr.fsf@debian.uxu> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Thu, 02 Apr 2015 00:53:36 +0200") X-Authenticated-Sender: es@enricoschumann.net X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.5/20279/Thu Apr 2 18:49:14 2015) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 188.40.28.11 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17540 Archived-At: On Thu, 02 Apr 2015, Emanuel Berg writes: > Enrico Schumann writes: > >> When I used POP some years ago, what worked out of >> the box for me was using SpamAssassin as an external >> programme (spamc) during splitting, as described in >> the manual: > > I also use POP and I don't get that many spams: those > I get I am able to KILL which is helpful as they do > come back [1]. > > Are you saying POP compared to IMAP is more > susceptible to spam? Those are protocols that deal > with the client fetch of mail from the server. > > IMAP is more advanced, and so more complicated, but > I always thought them to be mere protocols - defining > the message syntax as well as the order and meaning of > exchanges (e.g., handshakes and so on) in different > situations, with no implications as to anti-spam. > > Or do you mean that particular methods, e.g. > SpamAssassin which you mention, only works with POP? > > If you get a lot of spam, perhaps it is easier and > more efficient to just get a new e-mail address which > is a bit unintuitive and which you never submit to web > services or publish verbatim on pages or in mails? > > For example, I always mention my address as > > embe8573 AT&T student DOS uu DOS se > > I don't know if that is clever but considering I have > a home page with that handle and that all addresses > are constructed according to that pattern, and besides > the amount of communication and the width of my public > interface, I'd say something must be working as again, > I don't get much spam. > > [1] http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/conf/emacs-init/gnus/lamer.el The original question was: what is an easy way to handle spam messages in Gnus? I pointed the OP to one relatively-easy way, which does not require much configuration in Gnus, as described in the manual. I specifically mentioned POP because the OP said he used POP, and the configuration may differ for an IMAP setup. -- Enrico Schumann Lucerne, Switzerland http://enricoschumann.net