How do I install gnus cvs?

How do I install gnus cvs?

[Rodolfo Medina]

Hi, everybody.

I followed the steps described at

http://www.gnus.org/distribution.html

and downloaded the cvs gnus directory.
But there is no README nor INSTALL file.
How shall I install cvs gnus on my system?
With the usual './configure', 'make' and 'make install' trilogy?
And how shall I tell emacs to use the freshly installed cvs gnus
instead of the one already present in my emacs installation?

Thanks in advance for any reply,
Rodolfo

Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Bastien]

"Rodolfo Medina" <romeomedina@libero.it> writes:

> How shall I install cvs gnus on my system?
> With the usual './configure', 'make' and 'make install' trilogy?

Yes.

> And how shall I tell emacs to use the freshly installed cvs gnus
> instead of the one already present in my emacs installation?

Add this to your load-path:

(add-to-list 'load-path "~/install/gnus/lisp/")
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/install/gnus/contrib/")

replacing ~/install/ with the relevant cvs directory.

-- 
Bastien

Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Robert D. Crawford]

Bastien <bastien@xxx.fr> writes:

> "Rodolfo Medina" <romeomedina@libero.it> writes:
>
>> How shall I install cvs gnus on my system?  With the usual
>> './configure', 'make' and 'make install' trilogy?
>
> Yes.

Are the instructions for cvs different than those from the other
packages?  In the readme file from both gnus and ngnus, IIRC, it says
that under no circumstances are you to use make install.  If the system
breaks after doing a make install and we ask why, I think we are
threatened with instant death. 

Did I miss the memo?

rdc

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Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Bastien]

"Robert D. Crawford" <rdc1x@comcast.net> writes:

> Are the instructions for cvs different than those from the other
> packages?

I should have mentionned that you just need to do ./configure && make
and then add the new gnus to your load-path...

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Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Rodolfo Medina]

> Add this to your load-path:
>
>
> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/install/gnus/lisp/")
> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/install/gnus/contrib/")
>
>
> replacing ~/install/ with the relevant cvs directory.


Thanks.
But how do I know what the relevant cvs directory will be?

Rodolfo

Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Bastien]

"Rodolfo Medina" <romeomedina@libero.it> writes:

> But how do I know what the relevant cvs directory will be?

Where did you download Gnus CVS ?

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Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> But how do I know what the relevant cvs directory will be?


Bastien wrote:

> Where did you download Gnus CVS ?


In my home directory.
Rodolfo

Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[rodolfo.medina]

I put the whole gnus cvs directory in my home directory, and there I
did:

./configure && make

, then in my .emacs I put:

(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "~/gnus/lisp") load-path))
(require 'gnus-load)

(require 'info)
(setq Info-default-directory-list
      (cons "~/gnus/texi" Info-default-directory-list))

. Then I started emacs, started gnus, did 'M-x gnus-version'
and it says: 'No Gnus v0.4'.
Is that normal? Why 'No Gnus' instead of 'Gnus'?

Rodolfo

Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[David Z Maze]

rodolfo.medina@gmail.com writes:

> . Then I started emacs, started gnus, did 'M-x gnus-version'
> and it says: 'No Gnus v0.4'.
> Is that normal? Why 'No Gnus' instead of 'Gnus'?

No Gnus is the name of the alpha Gnus release (e.g., CVS) after Oort,
logically enough.  Well, maybe not.

Alpha (CVS)      --> Beta       --> Emacs release
----------------     ----------     -------------
(ding) Gnus      --> Gnus 5.0.x --> Gnus 5.1
September Gnus   --> Gnus 5.2.x --> Gnus 5.3
Red Gnus         --> Gnus 5.4.x --> Gnus 5.5
Quassia Gnus     --> Gnus 5.6.x --> Gnus 5.6
Pterodactyl Gnus --> Gnus 5.8.x --> Gnus 5.9
Oort Gnus        --> Gnus 5.10.x
No Gnus

There used to be very frequent alpha Gnus releases, e.g. September
Gnus 0.79, but these largely stopped when Gnus started using CVS.  So
even though No Gnus has been around for quite a while now the last
"release" of it is No Gnus 0.3 and so the CVS version calls itself No
Gnus 0.4.  I think the current plan is that FSF Emacs 22 will ship
with Gnus 5.11, and after that happens No Gnus will become Gnus
5.12.0.

(I don't remember any more what features No Gnus has that aren't in
the latest 5.10 release, or even what release that is.  :-)

  --dzm

Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Frank Schmitt]

rodolfo.medina@gmail.com writes:

> . Then I started emacs, started gnus, did 'M-x gnus-version'
> and it says: 'No Gnus v0.4'.
> Is that normal? Why 'No Gnus' instead of 'Gnus'?

Yes, it's perfectly normal. No Gnus is the code name for the CVS
version. See the FAQ on http://my.gnus.org/FAQ

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Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Reiner Steib]

On Fri, Feb 10 2006, David Z Maze wrote:

> rodolfo.medina@gmail.com writes:
>
>> . Then I started emacs, started gnus, did 'M-x gnus-version'
>> and it says: 'No Gnus v0.4'.
>> Is that normal? Why 'No Gnus' instead of 'Gnus'?

,----[ (info "(gnus)Gnus Versions") ]
|    If you happen upon a version of Gnus that has a prefixed name -
| "(ding) Gnus", "September Gnus", "Red Gnus", "Quassia Gnus",
| "Pterodactyl Gnus", "Oort Gnus", "No Gnus" - don't panic.  Don't let it
| know that you're frightened.  Back away.  Slowly.  Whatever you do,
| don't run.  Walk away, calmly, until you're out of its reach.  Find a
| proper released version of Gnus and snuggle up to that instead.
`----

> Pterodactyl Gnus --> Gnus 5.8.x --> Gnus 5.9
> Oort Gnus        --> Gnus 5.10.x

| Oort Gnus        --> Gnus 5.10.x --> Gnus 5.11

> No Gnus

[...]
> I think the current plan is that FSF Emacs 22 

s/FSF Emacs/Emacs/, please.

,----[ (info "(efaq)Difference between Emacs and XEmacs") ]
|    If you want to talk about these two versions and distinguish them,
| please call them "Emacs" and "XEmacs."  To contrast "XEmacs" with "GNU
| Emacs" would be misleading, since XEmacs too has its origin in the work
| of the GNU Project.  Terms such as "Emacsen" and "(X)Emacs" are not
| wrong, but they are not very clear, so it is better to write "Emacs and
| XEmacs."
`----

> will ship with Gnus 5.11, and after that happens No Gnus will become
> Gnus 5.12.0.
>
> (I don't remember any more what features No Gnus has that aren't in
> the latest 5.10 release, 

See (info "(gnus)No Gnus") or GNUS-NEWS.

> or even what release that is.  :-)

5.10.6

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Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Rodolfo Medina]

"Rodolfo Medina" <romeomedina@libero.it> writes:

> How shall I install cvs gnus on my system?
> With the usual './configure', 'make' and 'make install' trilogy?
> And how shall I tell emacs to use the freshly installed cvs gnus
> instead of the one already present in my emacs installation?



I worked it out so:


                .....................................

See:
http://www.gnus.org/distribution.html


--------
Download:
--------

download and install emacs cvs;

be sure you have cvs 1.8 or newer installed;

from the '~/' directory (or whatever you want) do:

    $ cvs -d :pserver:gnus@cvs.gnus.org:/usr/local/cvsroot login
    CVS password: gnus
    $ cvs -d :pserver:gnus@cvs.gnus.org:/usr/local/cvsroot checkout gnus
     
A '~/gnus' directory will be created, you can then rename to whatever you want -- like, for instance, pgnus. 



------------
Installation:
------------

from '~/gnus' do:

$ ./configure && make

. In .emacs put the following:


------------------------------------------------------------------
(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "~/gnus/lisp") load-path)) 
 (require 'gnus-load) 
 

(require 'info) 
 (setq Info-default-directory-list 
       (cons "~/gnus/texi" Info-default-directory-list))
------------------------------------------------------------------



*Don't* remove the ~/gnus directory!


------
Update:
------

from the '~/gnus' dir, do: 

    $ cvs update
                        .........................


Bye,
Rodolfo

Re: How do I install gnus cvs?

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:

>> How shall I install cvs gnus on my system?
>> With the usual './configure', 'make' and 'make install' trilogy?
>> And how shall I tell emacs to use the freshly installed cvs gnus
>> instead of the one already present in my emacs installation?
>
>
>
> I worked it out so:
>
>
>                 .....................................
>
> See:
> http://www.gnus.org/distribution.html
>
>
> --------
> Download:
> --------
>
> download and install emacs cvs;



For Emacs CVS installation, see:

 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=8004


Rodolfo