From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/6904 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Problems with Gnus setup Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:42:50 +1100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <874q25lbx1.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1142059559 29731 80.91.229.2 (11 Mar 2006 06:45:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 11 07:45:58 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHxrN-0000Tf-8i for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:45:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHxrM-0003AC-Fe for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:45:52 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!sn-xt-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tqr2SsQ1NHTyvM00aZORk5yDlpo= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 64 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:77087 Original-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:6904 Archived-At: I've been using Gnus for a few years. Recently, my ISP changed their news server - I think its changed from running DNES to PNEWS - thought thats only a guess bassed on the name of the server. Since the change, I've been having lots of issues with gnus getting articles from the server. I've also noticed a few other 'odd' behaviors with gnus. I've now totally removed all my gnus configuration and started from scratch. I've also removed the old ~/News directory tree. Essentially, I'm starting from scratch as if I've never run gnus before. The problem I'm having is with the default select method i.e. gnus-select-method. I'm running under Debian Etch (Testing) with Emacs 21.4 and Gnus No Gnus v0.4. I'm on a 512 ADSL link. Problems ======== When I start gnus, it is unable to recognise the news server specified in /etc/news/server (the default Debian installation sets this as the file instead of the older /etc/nttpserver file. I've checked the variable when gnus is running and it is correct). If I only place the name of the server in that file, it gives an error at startup saying it cannot open ''. This is not a significant problem as specifying the select method through customize works fine. Basically, my select method is (nntp "news.internode.on.net") After bare bones startup without a .newsrc file (or .newsrc.eld), the active file is read from the remote nntp server. this is varified by network traffic and I can subscribe to groups using U and gnus can even auto complete the newsgroup name. However, regardless of what groups I've subscribed to, hitting g to get new news always tells me there is no new news. I also don't see any network traffic. If I then quit and login again, there is still no news. I can post to the group, but still there is no new news using g. However, if I hit M-g, suddenly there is lots of gnus - as I've not done any catup, there is usually thousands of unread messages, most of which have expired of course. If I subscribe to a group on my ISPs news server as a foreign group, all works just fine. So, since the foreign method is exactly the same as the default gnus-select-method, why is this not working? My suspicion is there is some weird behavior between the gnus nntp method and the new news server software my ISP is running, but I'm only guessing that because until they changed software, all was fine. Of course, I've not changed my gnus configuration for a long time, so I could be working under some misconceptions on how my system was previously configured (I did the stupid thing of deleteing my old config before realising I didn't have a backup of it). So, can anyone give me some pointers on what I should try to get this to work correctly? TIA Tim . -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au