From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 23549 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2021 16:54:06 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Oct 2021 16:54:06 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1]:36460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1maL2S-0006uI-KS for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:54:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1maKzK-0001t7-Kn for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:50:52 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:53572) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1maKzI-00081C-CW for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:50:50 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1maKzE-0003CA-73 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 18:50:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Mail source unreachable - continue yes/no? Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 09:50:26 -0700 Message-ID: <875yu2yyp9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <22ee8sumb0.fsf@hiptop.liman.net> <87zgrect8z.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vf2EDZQCt9QyREpIJAoRavLEwlI= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Lars-Johan Liman writes: > >> My question: how is my answer (yes/no) used? (Which are the consequences >> of responding yes or no, respectively?) > > Answering "no" should beep an error, say "Cannot get new mail" and then > stop. Hm... but I see that the caller (in `nnmail-get-new-mail-1' just > ignores that, and carries on as if nothing happened), so it doesn't > matter whatever you respond. > > Hm... I'm not sure how to fix this, or what the right fix would be > here. Anybody got an opinion? I have an opinion :) We create a few custom error symbols for backend errors, including mail source failures, open-server failures, etc, and we put some condition-cases handling those errors in `gnus-get-unread-articles'. They collect the errors, continue with the next server, and at the end of the process display a nice tidy message indicating which servers failed to connect. It's always been a bit annoying that an nntp connection failure hoses the entire update process. WDYT? Eric