From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17380 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: alt-tab? really? you're joking... Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:12:57 +0100 Message-ID: <8761bu2c52.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8xxfvb2tath.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxwq4dft9q.fsf@village.keycorner.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422260005 6309 80.91.229.3 (26 Jan 2015 08:13:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:13:25 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 09:13:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YFenQ-0006CC-Ac for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:13:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40415 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFenP-0002Lf-NH for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 03:13:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37732) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFenJ-0002Jw-L8 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 03:13:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFenD-00009P-VF for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 03:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YFenD-00009A-OL for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 03:13:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YFenB-000616-0b for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:13:05 +0100 Original-Received: from dhcp99.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.71.99]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:13:04 +0100 Original-Received: from tsdh by dhcp99.uni-koblenz.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:13:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp99.uni-koblenz.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:h2/J5zk6GGroXyKZYG84wC21QDo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17380 Archived-At: Hikaru Ichijyo writes: >> M-TAB is used for completion in dozens other places in emacs. > > Really? I don't doubt you, but I'd never run into that before. I've > seen lots of ordinary tab completion, but never M-TAB. Well, in any programming mode, `' runs `completion-at-point' or `complete-symbol' which are the main completion functions in emacs. (Actually, that's bound to `C-M-i' but that translates to `' which is much easier to type.) >> You have 3 options: >> >> a) Use `ESC TAB' instead of `M-TAB'. > > That would work. A little awkward, but it would work. > >> b) Use some other key as Meta, e.g., the windows key commonly found on >> keyboards. > > X11 on my system is already mapping that as "Super", and I'm already > using it that way in numerous personal key bindings. (It's convenient > that almost nothing in Emacs seems to pre-define it for anything, so > it's been a great place to put user defined stuff.) That's true, but OTOH I favor a strict separation of keys, e.g., Control and Meta are reserved for emacs, Super is reserved for the X11 window manager. Bye, Tassilo