From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16176 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rainer M Krug Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Can't send emails to this list via gmane? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: <877gkqcg4t.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87li97gu5w.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvzes0jp.fsf@riseup.net> <87boa2cjmc.fsf@gmail.com> <878v56rz8p.fsf@riseup.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364575323 23756 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2013 16:42:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org To: wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. 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Greenhouse's message of "Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:40:06 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 74.125.82.54 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16176 Archived-At: wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) writes: > Hi Rainer, > > Rainer M Krug writes: > >> Nothing - the message with the following headers: >> >> From: Rainer M Krug >> Subject: Displaying all mail >> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user >> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:57:31 +0100 (19 hours, 23 minutes, 20 seconds ago) >> Fcc: /home/rkrug/Maildir/sent >> >> is copied into the nnfolder+archive.sent.2013-03 but does not go >> through. >> >>> after sending an NNTP message for the first time to a particular Gmane >>> newsgroup, you get a confirmation mail at the address you specified in >>> "From:" which must be a valid email address. You must reply to that >> >> I did not receive any mail, and I can post to to the mailing from >> thunderbird so I assume that I should be able from gnus as well. > > My hypothesis, then, is that Gmane does try to send you the confirmation > message but that this ends up in your Gmail spam folder. Did you check > there? Yes - I checked there just now and nothing was in there. In addition, I assume that the email would have been send via my (only) smtp account which is gmail, and the mail should have been in the "Send Items" - nothing there (checked via the web interface as well). > >> Same as above - I do not assume that I am blocked when using gnus but >> not thunderbird. > > To clarify, are you posting directly to the mailing list with > Thunderbird, or to Gmane? via gmane on thunderbird. > Being blocked from Gmane and blocked from the > "upstream" mailing list are not the same thing; that's completely > different machines, with different administrators, and potentially > different lists of IPs suspected of spam. Sure - two different receivers. > > Your description of the order of events, though, makes it sound like the > message was delivered to Gmane but the required confirmation email was > mislaid somehow. I thought the same - but I did not see any. Any suggestions how I can check this? Rainer > > Best, > Will -- Rainer M. 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