From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/13995 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Sullivan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Continuing problems with marks in nnimap Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:39:23 -0700 Message-ID: <877hn8iyus.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273727369 17717 80.91.229.12 (13 May 2010 05:09:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 05:09:29 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 13 07:09:28 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCQfn-0001kf-UZ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 May 2010 07:09:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57529 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OCQfm-0001gW-SK for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 May 2010 01:09:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36939 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OCPCZ-0003XR-Ul for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 23:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCK7p-0007c8-Ld for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 18:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCK7p-0007T3-Fc for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 18:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCK6p-00055D-Eh for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 May 2010 00:08:55 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-203-137-180.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([98.203.137.180]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 00:08:55 +0200 Original-Received: from john by c-98-203-137-180.hsd1.wa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 00:08:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-203-137-180.hsd1.wa.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+aYSWLfsDGFfG5TozyKI0SI9pIM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:13995 Archived-At: I have mentioned before that unread articles are sometimes spontaneously being marked as O, causing them to disappear from my view and me to lose track of them. This is a really awful problem to have, but I have no idea how to reproduce it or debug it. The only thing I can do is mark all unread articles with !, which seems to successfully keep them around. But this is very undesirable, since I'd rather use ! for other meanings. I will go for a month without the problem happening, and then suddenly it will, wiping out my Inbox. Now I'm also noticing another problem, which is that an nnimap group with Total Expire and Automatic Expire on is not actually marking all read articles as expirable. Many of them are also marked as O. I think these may be messages that are moved to the group from another group, but even when I enter the group (with C-u to show all messages) and hit "c" to mark them all read, upon exit and re-entry they are still marked O. I have to manually mark them with E in order to make them expirable. The IMAP server is courier, running on localhost. It is synced with another IMAP server via offlineimap. Any advice about these problems or how I can provide more useful info for debugging? I know a lot of people are using a similar nnimap/offlineimap setup (I have helped many people get it going myself), so I'm really wondering what is different about my situation. -- John Sullivan Emacs Planner Maintainer http://wjsullivan.net/PlannerMode.html GPG Key: AE8600B6