From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/11701 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: What's a killed article ? Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:05:58 +0200 Organization: SunSITE.dk - Supporting Open source Message-ID: <877i6a7da1.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <878wqx82hp.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87prk74tx9.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86ej0mldi7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <864p1ek6up.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228763208 9128 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2008 19:06:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:06:48 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 08 20:07:48 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L9lRd-0001DA-Ma for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:07:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49976 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L9lQS-0005G2-Jx for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:05:48 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7wO7qN/yms/VkrF8p+IPLeq/FlE= Original-Lines: 14 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.243.80.210 Original-X-Trace: news.sunsite.dk DXC=XSbCH9lR8>]lL^MjWE7dTZ^5C=NRIc>M]; 1fb3RMg; :; iY>M0R Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:81956 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:11701 Archived-At: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:46:22 -0600, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > Can you provide a list of terms you personally found challenging? > Remember, most readers of the Gnus mailing list and newsgroups are not > good test subjects for manual readability :) That's a fairly good point. I think that with a bit of shepherding from more experient documentation writers, the ``newbies'' of some particular program should _always_ be considered a very good source of information about what can be improved about the documentation. It takes a lot of empathy and practice to ``get into the shoes'' of a new user when you are already an experienced developer. On the other hand, if you *are* a newbie it costs nothing at all :-)