From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/5182 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gernot Hassenpflug Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: how to remove groups entirely from .newsrc.eld file? 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Sébastien> While recently playing with archives groups and Sébastien> creating several bogus servers i found that sometimes Sébastien> the only way to get rid of a server definition is to Sébastien> manually edit .newsrc.eld files (when Gnus is not Sébastien> started) and to edit the gnus-server-alist definition. Sébastien> As else in the server buffer Gnus keeps on refusing to Sébastien> kill some of them. Hello Sébastien, many thanks for your helpful reply. I did edit the .newsrc.eld file for the gnus-server-alist definition. Solved the problem. >> On a related note, anything done with G D appears in the >> .newsrc.eld file, as expected,... Sébastien> I think that .gnus.el should be considered more as an Sébastien> initialisation script that actually a config file. Sébastien> (Except for the customize section in the .emacs file Sébastien> that one can place elsewhere) Gnus does not modify its Sébastien> starting script but stores its configuration in the Sébastien> .newsrc.eld file. OK, now that that is clarified, I feel much better. I remember the days of .newsrc files that were simple multi-column lists of newsgroup names and article numbers. Things have gotten more complex! >> Is there a recommended method for keeping mail safely organized >> (easy to overview in the .gnus.el file, for example, not so >> easy if you don't know where on disk(s) your groups were >> located if you have to try and look for them again), and can I >> move stuff that is created with G D into my .gnus.el file? Sébastien> Maybe you can do like me for some settings : looking in Sébastien> the .newsrc.eld for the parameters that gnus set and Sébastien> copying them to the .gnus to keep them in case of Sébastien> future reuse. I used to see that those settings are Sébastien> ignored from the .gnus if they are also present in the Sébastien> .newsrc.eld (so you have to remove them from Sébastien> .newsrc.eld before they are taken into account if you Sébastien> modify the .gnus definition). OK, that sounds good to me. I'll give that a try. I've gained new respect for the .newsrc.eld file, and back it up regularly too, in case of accidental clearing. Many thanks, Gernot -- G Hassenpflug RASC, Kyoto University