* posting to news.newsguy.com @ 2005-03-04 19:04 Michael Powe 2005-03-04 22:39 ` Floyd L. Davidson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Michael Powe @ 2005-03-04 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw) I wonder if anyone else is having problems posting to newsguy. Last week, gnus decided it wouldn't post to gnu.emacs.help. Today, it's decided it won't past to comp.mail.mutt. I emailed newsguy about it last week and their response was that there wasn't anything going on with that newsgroup; and the only thing they could see out of the ordinary was that my newsreader was disconnecting and reconnecting repeatedly in a short period of time. I have been using gnus for so long that I dread the thought of trying something else, but it seems like there's always some little thing like this that's getting borked up. I know I'm being grouchy but ... I just want it to work. Thanks. mp Gnus v5.9.0 GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, Motif Version 2.1.30) of 2005-01-24 on ellen gentoo linux -- Michael Powe michael@trollope.org Naugatuck CT USA "When a person behaves in keeping with his conscience, when he tries to speak as a citizen even under conditions where citizenship is degraded, it may not lead to anything, yet it might. But what surely will not lead to anything is when a person calculates whether it will lead to something or not." -- Vaclav Havel, 1989 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: posting to news.newsguy.com 2005-03-04 19:04 posting to news.newsguy.com Michael Powe @ 2005-03-04 22:39 ` Floyd L. Davidson 2005-03-05 1:23 ` Michael Powe 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Floyd L. Davidson @ 2005-03-04 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Michael Powe <michael+gnus@trollope.org> wrote: >I wonder if anyone else is having problems posting to newsguy. Last >week, gnus decided it wouldn't post to gnu.emacs.help. Today, it's >decided it won't past to comp.mail.mutt. I emailed newsguy about it >last week and their response was that there wasn't anything going on >with that newsgroup; and the only thing they could see out of the >ordinary was that my newsreader was disconnecting and reconnecting >repeatedly in a short period of time. > >I have been using gnus for so long that I dread the thought of trying >something else, but it seems like there's always some little thing >like this that's getting borked up. I know I'm being grouchy but >... I just want it to work. I used to use newsguy.com as my primary news server, but had an experience similar to that some time back, and switched to using my ISP's news service (which they recently changed from another server to supernews.com, which did not make me at all happy, as I'd dropped supernews a couple years before in favor of newsguy...). Anyway, at one point newsguy did something to their server that made an older version of gnus stop working, and trying to deal with them to find out what was going on was nothing short of a total pain. Eventually I just upgraded to what was then the latest version of gnus, and all was well again. But it really annoyed me to have a network control type tell me they had done absolutely nothing, and that if they had a problem there would be thousands and thousands of complaints, and there weren't. (I'm a retired long distance telecom weenie, and I *know* that you can have major disasters that only show up with a few little complaints... which when investigated turn out to be the tip of an iceberg with thousands and thousands of calls being dropped!) Whatever... I just tried posting to alt.test using newsguy's server, twice. It takes the article. The next time I update, I see that there is one unread article listed for alt.test. However, no new article is actually available. An article posted to supernews.com did show up, at least on supernews.com, though not on newsguy.com. And then, 24 minutes after it was posted to newsguy.com, the first of my articles has shown up on supernews.com, but none of them have shown up on newsguy.com as yet. It appears they are experiencing temporary technical difficulties... ;-) -- Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: posting to news.newsguy.com 2005-03-04 22:39 ` Floyd L. Davidson @ 2005-03-05 1:23 ` Michael Powe 2005-03-05 2:03 ` Floyd L. Davidson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Michael Powe @ 2005-03-05 1:23 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Floyd" == Floyd L Davidson <floyd@barrow.com> writes: Floyd> Michael Powe <michael+gnus@trollope.org> wrote: >> I wonder if anyone else is having problems posting to newsguy. >> Last week, gnus decided it wouldn't post to gnu.emacs.help. >> Today, it's decided it won't past to comp.mail.mutt. I emailed >> newsguy about it last week and their response was that there >> wasn't anything going on with that newsgroup; and the only >> thing they could see out of the ordinary was that my newsreader >> was disconnecting and reconnecting repeatedly in a short period >> of time. >> >> I have been using gnus for so long that I dread the thought of >> trying something else, but it seems like there's always some >> little thing like this that's getting borked up. I know I'm >> being grouchy but ... I just want it to work. Floyd> I used to use newsguy.com as my primary news server, but Floyd> had an experience similar to that some time back, and Floyd> switched to using my ISP's news service (which they Floyd> recently changed from another server to supernews.com, Floyd> which did not make me at all happy, as I'd dropped Floyd> supernews a couple years before in favor of newsguy...). yeah, i just re-upped on newsguy, too. i got on them because my isp went to an outsourcer and there were just all kinds of problems. articles would disappear, get renumbered -- yeah, that was cool. that was a few years ago, though. Floyd> Anyway, at one point newsguy did something to their server Floyd> that made an older version of gnus stop working, and trying Floyd> to deal with them to find out what was going on was nothing Floyd> short of a total pain. Eventually I just upgraded to what Floyd> was then the latest version of gnus, and all was well Floyd> again. But it really annoyed me to have a network control Floyd> type tell me they had done absolutely nothing, and that if Floyd> they had a problem there would be thousands and thousands Floyd> of complaints, and there weren't. (I'm a retired long Floyd> distance telecom weenie, and I *know* that you can have Floyd> major disasters that only show up with a few little Floyd> complaints... which when investigated turn out to be the Floyd> tip of an iceberg with thousands and thousands of calls Floyd> being dropped!) Floyd> Whatever... I just tried posting to alt.test using Floyd> newsguy's server, twice. It takes the article. The next Floyd> time I update, I see that there is one unread article Floyd> listed for alt.test. However, no new article is actually Floyd> available. An article posted to supernews.com did show up, Floyd> at least on supernews.com, though not on newsguy.com. And Floyd> then, 24 minutes after it was posted to newsguy.com, the Floyd> first of my articles has shown up on supernews.com, but Floyd> none of them have shown up on newsguy.com as yet. Floyd> It appears they are experiencing temporary technical Floyd> difficulties... ;-) Well, they "batch post" -- posts go out every 15 minutes. So, there is an annoying delay in there. But I am able to post in here and in alt.test at the same time i can't post in the other newsgroup. it's just weird. Gnus acts like it's sending, an article ID is generated, but it's hung. If i leave it long enough, the connection will close. Thanks. I may have to give the isp connection another try. mp -- 'cat' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: posting to news.newsguy.com 2005-03-05 1:23 ` Michael Powe @ 2005-03-05 2:03 ` Floyd L. Davidson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Floyd L. Davidson @ 2005-03-05 2:03 UTC (permalink / raw) Michael Powe <michael+gnus@trollope.org> wrote: >>>>>> "Floyd" == Floyd L Davidson <floyd@barrow.com> writes: > >Well, they "batch post" -- posts go out every 15 minutes. So, there Sure, but it appears they aren't necessarily posting the articles, though they are propagating them to other servers. The two articles that I posted to newsguy never did show up on their server! But both of them showed up 20+ minutes later on supernews, so they are being sent to other servers. >is an annoying delay in there. But I am able to post in here and in >alt.test at the same time i can't post in the other newsgroup. it's >just weird. Gnus acts like it's sending, an article ID is generated, >but it's hung. If i leave it long enough, the connection will close. Hmmm... I occasionally get that with supernews, though it hasn't done if for a few days now. I've usually killed the process, and then waited awhile to see if anything showed up. The problem is that on a couple of occasions I've waited for an hour, and then reposted only to have the original also show up awhile later too. >Thanks. I may have to give the isp connection another try. I'm a bit torqued at my ISP for switching to supernews. They were using america.net, and I found it to be better than either supernews or newsguy (and I've been using newsguy since it was zippo.com, way back when). -- Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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