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envelope-from=stephen.berman@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 13:34:37 -0700 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: > >> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 11:55:36 -0700 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: [...] >>> The nntp-connection-timeout variable has been present and nil since >>> 1999. I put my original buggy fix in at the end of October 2021, so that >>> seems suspicious, but that should only have had an effect if you had set >>> nntp-connection-timeout to something other than the default of nil. >> >> I've never touched nntp-connection-timeout, I only became aware of it >> when you mentioned it in this thread. Also, October 2021 is too early: >> the early to mid December date stands out to me because in early >> December of that year there was a change in my internet service, and I >> started experiencing the Gnus problem soon thereafter. At first I >> thought it might be due to my change in internet service, but the >> problem really was and remains only with fetching news with Gnus (and >> not with fetching email with Gnus, which I do from different mail >> servers). I also only use news.gmane.io for fetching news, so that's >> why I thought maybe something changed there. > > It's entirely possible! The buggy fix was reverted in early May, so if > you stopped seeing the bad behavior then, that would be pretty conclusive. Unfortunately, I can conclusively state that I continue to get the hangs to this day (and the sightings reported by Prashant Tak and Eric Fraga were also just within the last week or so). Steve Berman