From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16175 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wgreenhouse-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org (W. Greenhouse) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Can't send emails to this list via gmane? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:40:06 +0000 Message-ID: <878v56rz8p.fsf@riseup.net> References: <87li97gu5w.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvzes0jp.fsf@riseup.net> <87boa2cjmc.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364572525 28452 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2013 15:55:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:55:25 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Fri Mar 29 16:55:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULbeb-0007Yy-RS for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:55:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51296 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULbeD-0001jm-Mv for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:55:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41633) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULbe7-0001jY-Cf for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:55:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULbe2-0002wH-39 for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49791) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULbe1-0002vt-S0 for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULbPo-0000DU-Vg for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:40:29 +0100 Original-Received: from 31.3.214.197 ([31.3.214.197]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:40:28 +0100 Original-Received: from wgreenhouse by 31.3.214.197 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:40:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 31.3.214.197 X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:h+LW9F7CO0GimqiY6gzf0wtGtBI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16175 Archived-At: Hi Rainer, Rainer M Krug writes: > Nothing - the message with the following headers: > > From: Rainer M Krug > Subject: Displaying all mail > Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user > Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:57:31 +0100 (19 hours, 23 minutes, 20 seconds ago) > Fcc: /home/rkrug/Maildir/sent > > is copied into the nnfolder+archive.sent.2013-03 but does not go > through. > >> after sending an NNTP message for the first time to a particular Gmane >> newsgroup, you get a confirmation mail at the address you specified in >> "From:" which must be a valid email address. You must reply to that > > I did not receive any mail, and I can post to to the mailing from > thunderbird so I assume that I should be able from gnus as well. My hypothesis, then, is that Gmane does try to send you the confirmation message but that this ends up in your Gmail spam folder. Did you check there? > Same as above - I do not assume that I am blocked when using gnus but > not thunderbird. To clarify, are you posting directly to the mailing list with Thunderbird, or to Gmane? Being blocked from Gmane and blocked from the "upstream" mailing list are not the same thing; that's completely different machines, with different administrators, and potentially different lists of IPs suspected of spam. Your description of the order of events, though, makes it sound like the message was delivered to Gmane but the required confirmation email was mislaid somehow. Best, Will -- BOFH excuse #150: Arcserve crashed the server again.