Re: Can't send emails to this list via gmane?

[Rainer@krugs.de (Rainer M. Krug)]

wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) writes:

> Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Yes - I checked there just now and nothing was in there. In addition, I
>> assume that the email would have been send via my (only) smtp account
>> which is gmail, and the mail should have been in the "Send Items" -
>> nothing there (checked via the web interface as well).
>
> Except it's not an email.  It's a Usenet article. :)
>
> Messages to Gmane (or any NNTP server) don't travel through SMTP at all,
> so it would never get the chance to show up in Gmail's Sent box.  With
> newsgroups, the NNTP stream is used both to send and to receive
> messages.  Gmail is not in the loop for this communication at
> all--except when Gmane detects that a particular sender has never posted
> to that group before, and sends an email to the From: address for
> verification.

Makes sense - explains why they are not there. 


>
>>>> Same as above - I do not assume that I am blocked when using gnus but
>>>> not thunderbird.
>>>
>>> To clarify, are you posting directly to the mailing list with
>>> Thunderbird, or to Gmane?  
>>
>> via gmane on thunderbird.
>
> Ah, Thunderbird was using NNTP, then?  Then that's especially
> peculiar.

Yup - it did.

>
>>> Being blocked from Gmane and blocked from the
>>> "upstream" mailing list are not the same thing; that's completely
>>> different machines, with different administrators, and potentially
>>> different lists of IPs suspected of spam.
>>
>> Sure - two different receivers.
>>
>>>
>>> Your description of the order of events, though, makes it sound like the
>>> message was delivered to Gmane but the required confirmation email was
>>> mislaid somehow.
>>
>> I thought the same - but I did not see any.
>>
>> Any suggestions how I can check this?
>>
>> Rainer
>
> I would check your NNTP configuration.  Maybe rather than using the
> "browse foreign groups" feature, you can set things up explicitly.
> Below are some known working settings for Gmane.
>
> While keeping Gmail as your primary select method, try
>
> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
>       '((nntp "news.gmane.org"
>               (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-tls-stream)
>               (nntp-port-number 563))))
>

Did it, but still can't send via the newsserver. But I stick with email
at the moment and will evaluate later.

Thanks,

Rainer


> Other NNTP servers can be added later along a similar pattern.

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