From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/13645 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nigel Beck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: rss shimbuns Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: <87aavfadpy.fsf@bsdlaptop.bsdlaptop.danakil.selfip.com> References: <87r5osrifu.fsf@bsdlaptop.bsdlaptop.danakil.selfip.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265909049 9982 80.91.229.12 (11 Feb 2010 17:24:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:24:09 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 11 18:24:07 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfclr-0005Y2-3Y for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:24:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36027 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nfclq-0006sd-Eu for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:24:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NfclW-0006iC-Ce for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45197 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NfclV-0006ho-R5 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NfclU-00088q-Ma for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:45 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53119) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NfclU-00088f-6N for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfclS-0005Hi-Jw for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:23:42 +0100 Original-Received: from 200.21.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net ([66.171.21.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:23:42 +0100 Original-Received: from me by 200.21.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:23:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 63 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.21.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAADFBMVEVOMSkwIR7z8vGEfn18 B1naAAAACXBIWXMAAAsSAAALEgHS3X78AAAACXZwQWcAAAAwAAAAMADO7oxXAAABdklEQVQoz03S P07DMBQG8M9KKiRUVYmUrByAKRIbYnBLsnSoGvCjW9g5Qqcy9AgcgAEJ9Y8EQ/ZKFTMLvQRH6AB8 z6YCK0r8yxc7znOwYFvi/Uuv0NOqHk/2B6xFnNn/ohW224DvnULOFa/O96Wn2FUBEbEqQ18c0UoO NuoTi1wEEdBRLHkLGxSJYiUyBrb63CmeOJL9LnGHVoFCkynmHNNlgFyG2GlSFAWnaxQ1X1PUQjxw 5m200ZfeEK6CpAxkokluw+ImeAuLDJh72P8Yi5+g/UuaANft5K5qdKG6BtMp8waPfKS2Z4Bhsib4 QTFQXRGARTJGnA5wL1qOSk8nmHVwESGOLTIPbYZHgxl7EUzCZIQXf9/108zssYpYjTxNMnO0wFIT m9jYXrPWs9rCcnw2IJYfSFhrY/z+tH4+lEPFuo5Z+TI9Vjw7y6wf+4Q7lKGMZeoxF1dzLwNCGdKR h355lUmA/i1Oyt4BdZm5ywDnyiStssUPtUy5uTU5Io0AAAASdEVYdGNvbW1lbnQAQXBwbGVNYXJr CnntC6wAAAAldEVYdGNyZWF0ZS1kYXRlADIwMTAtMDEtMjJUMTU6MzQ6MjAtMDU6MDAut/G6AAAA EXRFWHRqcGVnOmNvbG9yc3BhY2UAMix1VZ8AAAAgdEVYdGpwZWc6c2FtcGxpbmctZmFjdG9yADJ4 MiwxeDEsMXgxSfqmtAAAACV0RVh0bW9kaWZ5LWRhdGUAMjAxMC0wMS0yMlQxNTozNDoyMC0wNTow MHEGh44AAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ShJUSLkJwpxI/4oD/ZbqECn0ax4= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:13645 Archived-At: Thanks for the comments David Engster writes: > Nigel Beck writes: >> I've been experimenting with the generic shimbun reader for rss and have >> it mostly working, but a few things puzzle me: >> >> 1) Changing shimbun-rss-blogs-group-url-regexp requires a complete emacs >> shutdown and restart to be recognized. Even a gnus restart within emacs >> doesn't work. This seems like a bit of an onerous requirement to add a >> new blog > > I agree. This is due to shimbun-rss-blogs-groups being defvar'ed. Adding > > (luna-define-method shimbun-groups ((shimbun shimbun-rss-blogs)) > (mapcar 'car shimbun-rss-blogs-group-url-regexp)) > > to sb-rss-blogs.el (after the 'defvar' of shimbun-rss-blogs-groups) > should fix this. Please let me know if this works for you. > Yes that seems to fix it. >> 2) Similar to #1 - if a name has ever been used - eg "Nigels Blog" - it >> seems to "stick" even after total reset and can never be used again. >> This means that if I give the wrong url (typo, stupidity, whatever) for >> a blog, I need to rename it the next time. > > I'm guessing you only tried to 'kill' the group? The verb is misleading > here; in Gnus, 'killing' only means 'unsubscribing'. You can actually > *delete* a group from the shimbun server by using 'C-u G DEL' on the > group. Alternatively, you can delete the remaining overview/marks files > manually in ~/News/shimbun/rss-blogs/FEEDNAME and restart Gnus. > Yes indeed. Thanks for the pointer. >> 3) How *does* one deal with atom feeds? I've seen the stuff here >> http://www.randomsample.de/dru5/node/8 for converting an atom feed to >> rss, but I'm not clear on how/whether that plays nicely with the >> nnshimbun rss-blogs facility. > > The shimbun library uses w3m instead of mm-url for retrieving the feeds, > so this approach will not work. > > If you have atom feeds with fully published content, you can use the > atom-hash shimbun. For atom feeds without full content, I think > implementing a atom-blogs shimbun based on the rss-blogs code should be > straightforward. I'll eventually do that, but I'm currently pretty busy. > I'll play with atom-hash and also see if I can figure out how the rss-blogs code could become atom-blogs code. Probably its "obvious" but I've been looking around for atom-hash usage examples and didn't come across any. If anyone has one before I hack through it, it would be appreciated! > -David -- Nigel Beck http://www.nigelbeck.com