From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/11751 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus and pine Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:26:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87abaowwrq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <85tz8z7kwq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229928376 1529 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2008 06:46:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:46:16 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 07:47:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LEeZU-0006fG-Go for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:47:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEeYH-00035l-OQ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:46:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LEeYF-00035M-Kk for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LEeYD-00034p-Ip for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60434 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEeYD-00034m-As for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:46:01 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:49113 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LEeYD-00037a-1n for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:46:01 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LEeYA-00067N-9Z for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:58 +0000 Original-Received: from cha51-2-82-244-211-40.fbx.proxad.net ([82.244.211.40]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:58 +0000 Original-Received: from xma by cha51-2-82-244-211-40.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:45:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cha51-2-82-244-211-40.fbx.proxad.net X-Gnus-Agent-Gcc: nnfolder+archive:sent-messages User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5OYBAjN1xK/lafGXE7arOfoXOBc= X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:11751 Archived-At: harven writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> Xavier Maillard writes: >> >>> harven writes: >>> >>>> Then I guess the answer is « I decided to use $foo instead of $bar + $foo >>>> because $foo can do whatever $bar can do, after some customization » >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Whatever the reason was, it is a good reason. >>> >>> I am a bit surprised about the "4 millions users" for the pine >>> MUA. What is your source ? >> >> Arithmetic overflow? > > Arithmetic underflow. > The pine website reports 29 millions users, as of august 2006. > When first starting pine, a new user is prompted whether he wants > to send a message to the pine website. That's how the data are gathered. > See for details http://staff.washington.edu/corey/pine-stats/ This is really astonishing. I do not pretend that these numbers are wrong or something like that but except Linus, I never met somebody using Pine (well you are the second in fact). > I would be interested to know if there are statistics about the gnus userbase. Gnus is popular but I am pretty comfident there are not that much users.