From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/8353 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert D. Crawford" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Entering groups Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:55:37 -0600 Message-ID: <87ac203d0m.fsf@comcast.net> References: <87lklrnomu.fsf@azurservers.com> <87vekvorud.fsf@comcast.net> <87d56yyzuf.fsf@azurservers.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1165444883 22431 80.91.229.10 (6 Dec 2006 22:41:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 06 23:41:22 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Gs5Rz-00058u-3y for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:41:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gs5Ry-0001sq-JR for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:41:14 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:55:48 -0600 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:I4/scEhnZ2USmIJ5yMYsEoJCDJA= Original-Lines: 133 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.52.51.66 Original-X-Trace: sv3-a7oVGEz7CqOtZZohlPJFAvYuD4eeAbBRtKLdddXN3m3NidYFgBoGljHrJDR6kPPCabkd0Xa2d1fPycX!lo1Mok/rwafxFeSaCY+LEDZnQf5N5iKALH3OdhWjANXU7L5TbavhKpRwMYo= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:78538 Original-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:8353 Archived-At: Slackat writes: > Thank you for the L/l tip No problem. > However, I am now running emacs/gnus/w3m/erc under X and it is very > helpful since the menus are quite navigable with the mouse > notwithstanding me being an old CLI afficionado Blasphemy! Using a mouse in emacs... what would rms say? > The UseNet newsgroups are really no problem, but TAB completion does > not seem to work for me. Are there any special pre-requisites?. Not that I can recall. I've been using this particular set-up for quite a while now and some of the configuration issues that I might have run into are long forgotten. Maybe someone else can shed light on this. > And even supposing that it did work, would my Posting Styles to any > particular group be honoured? I can't help you here, as I only use two posting styles, the default and one in a mail group. I am not sure if you can change a posting style after the message buffer is created. > However, it is still impossible to enter a group that has no emails in > it I'm still at a loss here. I thought about it a bit and I think the reason I never had this problem might have been that I imported a _lot_ of mail from pine. > I have overcome this by putting a 'dummy' placeholder in the group > when I subscribe to it, which then creates the group on disk As long as there is a workaround. > I have (setq nnmail-expiry-target "nnml:mail.graveyard") and trying to > delete the articles/emails in this group with the Backend 'd' merely > appends the whole contents af the group to be appended again to the > end Something that can be taken care of in group parameters? Not sure, as I just hold on to the messages for x days and then they are deleted or not, depending on the group. If you check this graveyard every x days, why don't you just set the expiry target to delete and set the wait time to something reasonable. > Also could you confirm that my Expirable items will disappear in one > week as per the HowTo's I have read, or is there something needs to be > done specifically to enable this instead of relying upon what is said > to be the Default of seven days? I have never seen anything in gnus that was set as the default that did not work as advertised. > BROWSING and TEXT RENDERING > > This appears in my configs: > ;; I WOULD LIKE IT TO ALWAYS USE W3M For browsing _and_rendering? > ;;(setq browse-url-browser-function 'netscape) You do know that this line is commented, right? I am not sure if this is what you intend. Check the documentation for browse-url-browser-function. The argument should be a function. If you are trying to use w3m to browse, set it to w3m-browse-url. > ;; (setq mm-text-html-renderer 'w3m) If you wish w3m to render the html mail, this is correct, after you uncomment. > (setq nnmail-text-html-renderer 'w3m) I think this might be from a version of gnus earlier than the one that I am using. I looked in my .gnus.el file, one that I have been using for several versions and I do not see this variable anywhere.Also, trying to look up that variable returns nothing. > Now leaving (setq browse-url-browser-function 'netscape) uncommented > causes gnus to growl at me > > Changing it to 'Opera produces similar results > > Attempting to modify the code in browse-url.el to work for Opera > produced no results so, since Netscape, Mozilla, FireFox, ThunderBird > and their ilk are banished from my system, I symlinked Opera to > Netscape and can now merrily view URLs contained in inbound items Hmmm, forget what I said above. could it be that 'netscape' is a function in browse-url that calls netscape with the url? > However, I had no luck with rerndering HTML which is embedded in an > item. W3M is installed and M-x w3m callable. Beautiful, but how do I > get it to render the HTML text within an article or email? Uncomment (setq mm-text-html-renderer 'w3m) and all should be fine. > Otherwise I really do not need it since the item can be saved with a > few keystrokes as an .HTML file and viewed by clicking it in > FileRunner, my X replacement for mc Too many steps. Not very emacsy. > Been there and got the T-Shirt > > I never ask for help until I have INFOd, RTFMd, HOWTO'd, SEARCHd > and IRCd, you may be sure of that. Right on! Good to see that there are still people that do not expect all the answers without putting forth any effort. > So in actual fact, gnus, erc, w3m and the ide are up and running much > more than acceptably and I am most happy with the results I have > obtained from the hours spent upon the project. I am now really into > the fine tuning stage This stage never ends. I use emacs for the _only_ interface to my computer and have been for a while. Before that I used it for text and mail/news. I still customize things on a pretty regular basis. You are not static, why should your editor be? take care, rdc -- Robert D. Crawford rdc1x@comcast.net Please ignore previous fortune.