Re: Gnus fetch freezes emacs

[Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>]

Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> writes:

> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 11:55:36 -0700 Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
>
>> On 07/05/23 10:04 AM, Stephen Berman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 20:50:05 -0700 Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
> [...]
>>>> Using `nntp-connection-timeout' is the proper fix for this problem, it's
>>>> just got a bit of unfortunate behavior that needs to be remedied. I'd be
>>>> inclined to start a whole new bug report for a fix for that, because
>>>> it's really a new issue, with its own larger-reaching design decisions.
>>>> I suppose we could merge #52735 with that, though.
>>>
>>> Feel free to open a new bug for fixing nntp-connection-timeout.  I don't
>>> know if I can help, other than trying out suggestions and providing
>>> feedback.  In the meantime I'll keep using my workaround replacement
>>> function.
>>>
>>> But I wonder, could this issue have been triggered by some change in
>>> news.gmane.io around early to mid December 2021?  Because that's when
>>> the problem start for me, and prior to that I don't recall ever having
>>> this problem (perhaps sporadically but not with such persistance).
>>
>> The nntp-connection-timeout variable has been present and nil since
>> 1999. I put my original buggy fix in at the end of October 2021, so that
>> seems suspicious, but that should only have had an effect if you had set
>> nntp-connection-timeout to something other than the default of nil.
>
> I've never touched nntp-connection-timeout, I only became aware of it
> when you mentioned it in this thread.  Also, October 2021 is too early:
> the early to mid December date stands out to me because in early
> December of that year there was a change in my internet service, and I
> started experiencing the Gnus problem soon thereafter.  At first I
> thought it might be due to my change in internet service, but the
> problem really was and remains only with fetching news with Gnus (and
> not with fetching email with Gnus, which I do from different mail
> servers).  I also only use news.gmane.io for fetching news, so that's
> why I thought maybe something changed there.

It's entirely possible! The buggy fix was reverted in early May, so if
you stopped seeing the bad behavior then, that would be pretty conclusive.