* G g and delete mails with Emacs
@ 2022-05-07 0:48 Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-09 17:00 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-12 2:36 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2022-05-07 0:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Hello,
since threads are not a super reliable way to find all messages related
to a discussion, I decided to try to delete related messages in my
INBOX (consulted via imap) like the following:
I use G g to create a search group, open it, process mark the messages I
want to archive, and use b to move the messages to my local archive
folder.
But after that procedure, those messages are still available in my INBOX
(and displayed prefixed with "O").
Is there a way to vary this procedure so that those messages on the imap
server are deleted?
TIA,
Michael.
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* Re: G g and delete mails with Emacs
2022-05-07 0:48 G g and delete mails with Emacs Michael Heerdegen
@ 2022-05-09 17:00 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-10 4:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-12 2:36 ` Michael Heerdegen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2022-05-09 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> Hello,
>
> since threads are not a super reliable way to find all messages related
> to a discussion, I decided to try to delete related messages in my
> INBOX (consulted via imap) like the following:
>
> I use G g to create a search group, open it, process mark the messages I
> want to archive, and use b to move the messages to my local archive
> folder.
>
> But after that procedure, those messages are still available in my INBOX
> (and displayed prefixed with "O").
>
> Is there a way to vary this procedure so that those messages on the imap
> server are deleted?
I'm not the one to make this decision, but this sounds like it might be
potentially surprising behavior to users, maybe something that should be
behind a user option similar to `nnselect-allow-ephemeral-expiry'.
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* Re: G g and delete mails with Emacs
2022-05-09 17:00 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2022-05-10 4:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-10 4:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2022-05-10 4:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> > I use G g to create a search group, open it, process mark the messages I
> > want to archive, and use b to move the messages to my local archive
> > folder.
> >
> > But after that procedure, those messages are still available in my INBOX
> > (and displayed prefixed with "O").
>
> I'm not the one to make this decision, but this sounds like it might be
> potentially surprising behavior to users, maybe something that should be
> behind a user option similar to `nnselect-allow-ephemeral-expiry'.
Somebody here who wants to decide? Or say something about the idea?
Thanks,
Michael.
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* Re: G g and delete mails with Emacs
2022-05-10 4:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2022-05-10 4:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2022-05-10 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english; +Cc: Andrew Cohen
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> > I use G g to create a search group, open it, process mark the messages I
>> > want to archive, and use b to move the messages to my local archive
>> > folder.
>> >
>> > But after that procedure, those messages are still available in my INBOX
>> > (and displayed prefixed with "O").
>>
>> I'm not the one to make this decision, but this sounds like it might be
>> potentially surprising behavior to users, maybe something that should be
>> behind a user option similar to `nnselect-allow-ephemeral-expiry'.
>
> Somebody here who wants to decide? Or say something about the idea?
I expect Andy Cohen would be the one to ask about this. I've cc'd him,
he might not be looking at this list.
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* Re: G g and delete mails with Emacs
2022-05-07 0:48 G g and delete mails with Emacs Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-09 17:00 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2022-05-12 2:36 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-12 5:08 ` Fetching articles by id (was: G g and delete mails with Emacs) Michael Heerdegen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2022-05-12 2:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> Hello,
>
> since threads are not a super reliable way to find all messages related
> to a discussion, I decided to try to delete related messages in my
> INBOX (consulted via imap) like the following:
>
> I use G g to create a search group, open it, process mark the messages I
> want to archive, and use b to move the messages to my local archive
> folder.
BTW, it would be cool if one could somehow visit (request plus
optionally process mark) search results in the searched group itself.
Seems this is not possible out of the box. I see we have "warping", but
AFAIU it's only implemented for individual articles.
Or can that maybe be achieved in some other way?
Michael.
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* Fetching articles by id (was: G g and delete mails with Emacs)
2022-05-12 2:36 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2022-05-12 5:08 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-13 4:29 ` Fetching articles by id Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2022-05-12 5:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> Seems this is not possible out of the box. I see we have "warping", but
> AFAIU it's only implemented for individual articles.
How can I fetch articles with known id to be included in an existing
Summary buffer? `gnus-summary-refer-article' works but also selects an
displays the article. It doesn't seem to be based on something that
doesn't select and display, though.
TIA,
Michael.
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* Re: Fetching articles by id
2022-05-12 5:08 ` Fetching articles by id (was: G g and delete mails with Emacs) Michael Heerdegen
@ 2022-05-13 4:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2022-05-13 4:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> How can I fetch articles with known id to be included in an existing
> Summary buffer? `gnus-summary-refer-article' works but also selects an
> displays the article. It doesn't seem to be based on something that
> doesn't select and display, though.
I do it like this for now (modulo copy-paste-errors):
(1) Get processed marked articles in search group:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq articles
(mapcar #'nnselect-article-number
gnus-newsgroup-processable))
#+end_src
(2) Add those to the summary buffer of the searched group after opening
it:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(let (current (or (gnus-summary-article-number) gnus-newsgroup-end))
(mapc (lambda (h)
(let ((article-number (mail-header-number h)))
(gnus-summary-goto-subject article-number 'force)))
(gnus-fetch-headers articles))
;; Repair thread display
(gnus-summary-prepare)
(gnus-summary-goto-subject current)
(gnus-summary-position-point)
(mapc #'gnus-summary-set-process-mark articles))
#+end_src
[ I don't eval that by hand every time of course. I use hacked
registers to save those process marked ARTICLES in a register, and jump
to that register to insert and process mark the ARTICLES later. ]
Michael.
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