From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/3737 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Persson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: stored mail differs from the sent Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:59:53 +0200 Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Message-ID: <87d660jn12.fsf@spacecentre.se> References: <87brlm6yr1.fsf@spacecentre.se> <87k709660r.fsf@spacecentre.se> <87isftxphz.fsf@spacecentre.se> <87y8opw4np.fsf@spacecentre.se> <87n055vtnv.fsf@spacecentre.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138669752 20101 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:09:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:32:40 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!luth.se!luth.se!130.235.20.4.MISMATCH!news.lth.se!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: e211.vildanden.afb.lu.se NNTP-Posting-User: thomas User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nrKJIGeN+4qdfyES1aTAUMwXzqM= Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:3878 Original-Lines: 53 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 3878 Tue Jan 17 17:32:40 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:3737 Archived-At: Jesper Harder writes: > Thomas Persson writes: > >> Jesper Harder writes: >> >>> The archived message is not corrupt. It verifies correctly for me in >>> Gnus 5.10. I installed Gnus v5.10.6 but my old archived messages still don't verify correctly. Not with mailcrypt and not with pgg-verify-region. In fact none of my old messages, not even the really old ones I wrote in pine works anymore after the upgrade. They (the old pine messages with 8bit encoding) if I export them to a file and verify them with gpg -d. >> I tried the same procedure of signing and sending a mail to myself but >> this time with an email account where the MTA didn't convert the >> content-transfer-encoding from quoted-printable to 8bit and this time >> neither the archived nor the received mail verified correctly. > > This is probably a bug in Mailcrypt as your previous QP example > verified for me. Yes it does seem to be a bug in mailcrypt. Mailcrypt probably creates the signature assuming that the non ASCII characters will be sent as 8bit. I see now that the fact that the messages I sent verified correctly was just a fluke. The MTA translated them into 8bit. >> I have done some research and my working theory is that digitally >> signed messages cannot be quoted-printable. Is this correct? > > Yes and no. If your message includes 8bit characters you shouldn't > really be using old-style inline PGP in the first place. However, if > you do, the message should be QP encoded. > > The right thing for messages with non-ASCII characters is to use > PGP/MIME which works reliably in this case. > >> What I have to do then is to make sure that emacs sets the >> content-transfer-encoding to 8bit whenever I send a digitally signed >> message. There is a variable called >> `mm-content-transfer-encoding-defaults' but I feel that I do not >> enough about this yet. > > That is the wrong approach. As I suggested previously you should > rather upgrade to Gnus 5.10 (and use PGP/MIME). If you really *must* > use inline PGP in combination with 8bit, then this works in 5.10 as > well. I'm convinced. I'll start using PGP/MIME instead. I was just annoyed that using inline PGP with non ASCII characters shouldn't work with Gnus when I did it with pine for over a year.