Re: Gnus and gmane

[Pietro <pulsarpietro@posteo.net>]

Pietro <pulsarpietro@posteo.net> writes:

> pulsarpietro@posteo.net writes:
>
>> Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
>>
>>> Pietro <pulsarpietro@posteo.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> ;; IMAP personal email
>>>> (setq user-mail-address "xxxxxx@xxx.xx"
>>>>       user-full-name    "xxxxx")
>>>> (setq gnus-select-method 
>>>> 			'(nnimap "xxxx"
>>>> 		    (nnimap-stream ssl)
>>>> 		    (nnimap-address "xxxxx")
>>>> 		    (nnimap-server-port "imaps")
>>>> 		    (nnir-search-engine imap)
>>>> 		    (nnimap-expunge-on-close 'ask)))
>>>
>>> OK, so let's focus on Gmane and NNTP. You can comment
>>> this out temporarily, enclose it in (when nil ... ),
>>> or create a new .gnus and save the current one to
>>> .gnus-out-of-action or whatever to bring back later
>>> when Gmane works.
>>>
>>>> ;; Newsgroups
>>>> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org"))
>>>
>>> Looks good.
>>>
>>>> ;; Ordering, I wish I knew what they are about
>>>> (setq gnus-extract-address-components (quote mail-extract-address-components))
>>>> (setq gnus-article-sort-functions
>>>>       (quote (gnus-article-sort-by-number gnus-article-sort-by-date)))
>>>> (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
>>>>       (quote
>>>>         (gnus-thread-sort-by-number gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date)))
>>>
>>> I'd say Gnus does a good job sorting by default.
>>> Especially if you don't know what they are, you can
>>> comment that out at the very least until you get
>>> Gmane up.
>>>
>>>> (custom-set-variables
>>>>  ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
>>>>  ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
>>>>  ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
>>>>  ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
>>>>  '(send-mail-function (quote smtpmail-send-it))
>>>>  '(smtpmail-smtp-server "xxxxxx")
>>>>  '(smtpmail-smtp-service 587))
>>>
>>> You don't need custom to do that. This is better:
>>>
>>>     (setq message-send-mail-function #'smtpmail-send-it)
>>>
>>> Note the CL-style hash quote to denote
>>> a function literal.
>>>
>>>> (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil)
>>>>
>>>> ;; init / fanfare / verbose
>>>> (setq gnus-inhibit-startup-message t)
>>>> (setq gnus-novice-user nil)
>>>> (setq gnus-expert-user t)
>>>> (setq gnus-interactive-exit 'quiet)
>>>> (setq gnus-verbose 10)          ; [0, 10]
>>>> (setq gnus-verbose-backends 10) ; ditto
>>>
>>> That shouldn't affect your situation. You can
>>> temporarily remove it just the same, just like the
>>> SMTP stuff, just to do everything to isolate
>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> Another thing to try is, instead of having NNTP and
>>> Gmane as a secondary method, try to do it number one,
>>> i.e.:
>>>
>>>     (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org"))
>>>
>>> I've had it number one (as now) but also as
>>> a secondary method, so both should work, of course,
>>> but in our attempts to isolate the problem it seems
>>> like a reasonable thing to do.
>> No hope, my .gnus.el now contains the following :
>>
>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org"))
>>
>> And that is all it is there, GNUS gets stuck with the minibuffer saying:
>>
>> "Checking new news" forever"
>>
>> I can't interact with emacs at all, I can't open a toolbar menu entry
>> for instance.
>>
>> I do not know if this has any effect but as soon as I start gnus I am
>> asked for my local .authinfo.gpg password, even though I haven't setup
>> anything explicitly telling GNUS use it.
>>
>> To make this conversation going I am manually stopping GNUS whatever it
>> does with M-g and then I go through the 'gnus-group-enter-server-mode'
>> and I select this group, find our article and, finally, writing a follow-up.
>>
>> I am not sure this helps but I was curious and I have run strace on
>> the not-responding emacs instance, this is what I get :
>>
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 45181449}) = 0
>> recvmsg(8, 0x7ffe93c2de30, 0)           = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
>> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11,
>> events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 4, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 45317695}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 902641062}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 902675691}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 902708950}) = 0
>> pselect6(15, [5 7 8 11 14], [], NULL, {0, 9965371}, {NULL, 8}) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 55595850}) = 0
>> recvmsg(8, 0x7ffe93c2de30, 0)           = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
>> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11,
>> events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 4, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 55783461}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 913131581}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 913188508}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 913231684}) = 0
>> pselect6(15, [5 7 8 11 14], [], NULL, {0, 9943073}, {NULL, 8}) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 66134187}) = 0
>> recvmsg(8, 0x7ffe93c2de30, 0)           = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
>> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11,
>> events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 4, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 66299517}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 923649141}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 923689728}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 923728795}) = 0
>> pselect6(15, [5 7 8 11 14], [], NULL, {0, 9959413}, {NULL, 8}) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 76648247}) = 0
>> recvmsg(8, 0x7ffe93c2de30, 0)           = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
>> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11,
>> events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 4, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 76789593}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 934117273}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 934151649}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 934187433}) = 0
>> pselect6(15, [5 7 8 11 14], [], NULL, {0, 9965624}, {NULL, 8}) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 87054215}) = 0
>> recvmsg(8, 0x7ffe93c2de30, 0)           = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
>> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11,
>> events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 4, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {85650, 87175745}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 944489275}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 944522317}) = 0
>> clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1453891059, 944555567}) = 0
>> pselect6(15, [5 7 8 11 14], [], NULL, {0, 9966958}, {NULL, 8}^CProcess 28307 detached
>
> All solved, the reason why it all looked fairly unreasonable was
> because of some rubbish state being saved into the .news.eld and .news
> files. Once removed then you instructions worked smoothly.
>
> Thanks a lot.

Is there anything specific I need to do to get threads in date order ?