From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16151 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ezequiel Birman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Populating and updating the active file local cache and keeping gnus from querying Astraweb after '1g' Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:36:39 -0300 Organization: None Message-ID: <87ehfhuyew.fsf@david.espiga4.com.ar> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363318497 7168 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2013 03:34:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:34:57 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 15 04:35:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGLQM-0003Fi-83 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:35:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56666 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGLPz-00013j-F7 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58599) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGLPt-00013b-Jk for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGLPp-00027Y-Hz for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:34:49 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58660) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGLPp-00027T-BD for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:34:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGLQ8-00035C-5B for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:35:04 +0100 Original-Received: from 186.23.98.42 ([186.23.98.42]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:35:04 +0100 Original-Received: from stormwatch by 186.23.98.42 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:35:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 57 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 186.23.98.42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ES7y0beKyKLSdLpoYmlYwafCazM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16151 Archived-At: *** note *** I was wondering why I got no replies to my original message. It seems I posted on the wrong group gnu.emacs.gnus although according to http://www.gnus.org/resources.html "The gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup is the appropriate place to ask questions on usage of released versions of Gnus." I thought gnu.emacs.gnus was gatewayed to gmane.emacs.gnus.user but my message didn't appear on searches. *** end of note *** I've configured gnus to only fetch my mail (with nnmail) when I press '1g' (and also at startup). Nevertheless, since I've added a new nntp binary server (Astraweb) gnus always wastes some precious seconds reading the active file from this server as you can see in the extract below. Is that unavoidable? This is from *Messages* after starting gnus: ,---- | Opening nnfolder server on archive...done | Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done | Opening nntp server on news.gwene.org...done | Opening nntp server on Astraweb US SSL...done | Opening nnml server on david.espiga4.com.ar...done | 165 new newsgroups have arrived | Checking new news... | Reading active file from Astraweb US SSL via nntp... | Reading active file from david.espiga4.com.ar via nnml... | Reading incoming mail from file... `---- On a related note, and proably more important too, I can only browse through Astraweb's groups if I enter the *Server* buffer whereas I'd rather like to be able to have them in the Killed (or Zombie if new) Groups list so I can see them when I press 'A k'. Is this possible? I've tried recreating the active file with gnus-cache-generate-active, also gnus-group-find-new-groups (with one and two C-u prefixes) but I keep seeing only the groups from old servers (gmane, gwene, and my primary server individual.net) A list of pertinent variables: gnus-activate-level 5 (changed from the default which is 6) gnus-group-default-list-level 5 gnus-group-use-permanent-levels nil gnus-level-default-subscribed 3 gnus-level-default-unsubscribed 6 gnus-level-killed 9 gnus-level-subscribed 5 gnus-level-unsubscribed 7 gnus-level-zombie 8 gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method gnus-subscribe-zombies Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2013-01-11 on david.espiga4.com.ar -- Ezequiel Birman