From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/8682 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gernot Hassenpflug Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: How to manually download new mail with nnml-get-new-mail set to nil? 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Not very elegant! John> It sounds like you might want to use group levels. You can John> set your mail groups at one level and your news groups at John> another level. I'm not positive you can set the mail groups John> at a level such that they don't get checked on startup, but John> I think so. John> See (info "(gnus)Group Levels"). Hello John, I tried to do this, and set the Mail groups all the 4 while news groups are set to 3. Then, with "C-u 3 g" I expected to only look for articles in groups with setting of 3 or lower. Nevertheless, mail was downloaded regardless, sadly. Should this be the expected behaviour? In other words, in this instance gnus does not treat mail the same as newsgroups (I am using gnus to fetch mail from my POP server). If I set the variable nnml-get-new-mail to nil, then I find I cannot get new mail, even with the M-g command. Very confusing! So I am still using David Maze's suggestion of a command to reset this variable whenever I want to download or avoid downloading mail! If anyone has other ideas, please let me know here, I am thinking surely others have resolved this problem - in other words, I think I am missing something obvious. -- G Hassenpflug