From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/1946 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Below Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Automatically detecting the charset Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:16:21 +0100 Message-ID: <87el727szu.fsf@antithese.de> References: <87smvmpzhv.fsf@antithese.de> <87wukxtrhe.fsf@antithese.de> <85el75cvl5.fsf@bretagne.rail.eu.org> <87u1g1ti38.fsf@antithese.de> <87y95cm9ec.fsf@antithese.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138668554 13291 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 00:49:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:29:56 2006 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.090012 (Oort Gnus v0.12) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dUMhNCx7QXhprPAcnUrD9/PEj38= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp164-193.uni-bielefeld.de Original-X-Trace: news.uni-bielefeld.de 1043403382 ppp164-193.uni-bielefeld.de (24 Jan 2003 11:16:22 +0200) Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!Norway.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-bielefeld.de!not-for-mail Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:2086 Original-Lines: 51 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 2086 Tue Jan 17 17:29:56 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:1946 Archived-At: Hi, a followup to Kai's message <84bs277szf.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>: > For keyboard input, it might help to say C-x RET k iso-8859-15 RET. > Then enter umlauts. Do they show up in the proper encoding? No, that doesn't help. I am being offered iso-latin-9 as a default when I do that, but C-u C-x = still gives me "eight-bit-graphic". > Try > > LANG=de_DE@euro emacs -q -no-site-file > > in bash. Then open a file with umlauts into that Emacs. Is that > okay? Hey, that works! Now characters are recognized as something like: character: ö (07566, 3958, 0xf76) charset: latin-iso8859-15 (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 9 (ISO/IEC 8859-15): ISO-IR-203) code point: 118 syntax: word category: l:Latin buffer code: 0x8E 0xF6 file code: F6 (encoded by coding system iso-latin-9-unix) font: -monotype-courier new-medium-r-normal--17-128-95-95-m-100-iso8859-15 That sounds much better! It also works if I leave out the -q. So it looks like the system init files are buggy somehow. I know these init files: ~ $ls /etc/emacs/site-start.d 00debian-vars.el 50dpkg-dev.el 50gettext.el 50mew.el 50bbdb.el 50erc.el 50mailcrypt.el 50user-de.el ~ $ls /etc/emacs21/site-start.d 00debian-vars.elc 49url.el 50psgml-init.el 50w3.el Should I try removing them and putting them back in one by one, or is there a more intelligent approach? Ciao Michael -- _Agricultural activity_ is the management by an enterprise of the biological transformation of biological assets for sale, into agricultural produce, or into additional biological assets. IAS 41,5