From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/18914 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Hankins Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Mail source problem (?) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:42:12 -0500 Message-ID: <87fttf3s17.fsf@opal.nowan.org> References: <87k1ir8gac.fsf@opal.nowan.org> <875zubqj64.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="92194"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 27 00:42:49 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnXb5-000NrM-L4 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:42:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36908 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnXb4-0006ee-Lz for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:42:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnXb2-0006eV-7z for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnXb1-0005Rw-E8 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=49140 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gnXaz-0005PE-GX for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:42:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnXad-000NOF-2b for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:42:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:OgAKMcO/bc8RmzSBF2uu/jkRJr8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "info-gnus-english" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:18914 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Jeremy Hankins writes: > >> Recently (after an update to emacs about a month ago, debian unstable) I >> started getting a message when checking mail about a mail source error: >> >> Mail source (file :path /var/mail/nowan) error (Searching for program). Continue? (yes or no) >> >> This is apparently from my secondary select method meant to pull in >> localhost mail, and it doesn't seem to be anything obvious like a >> permissions problem. It doesn't make any difference whether I respond >> yes or no, either way mail out of /var/mail is ignored and the rest of >> my mail is fetched successfully. >> >> It's clearly some sort of compatibility issue and I figured I needed to >> sort through my gnus file and figure out where it was coming from -- >> annoying but no big deal. And since it's only a small minority of my >> mail affected it hasn't bugged me enough to pursue it till now. >> >> But the annoying thing, apart from the fact that the error is a bit >> obscure (what program?), is that if I turn debug-on-quit on so as to >> figure out where the bug is being triggered and why, the message goes >> away removing my chance to trigger the debugger. >> >> Any ideas either a) what the problem fetching local mail is, or b) why >> debug-on-quit makes the message go away? > > Are you sure it isn't `debug-on-error' you want? Unless you're getting a > hang when checking mail, and then trying to C-g out of the hang, you > won't trigger `debug-on-quit'. Maybe try the former? I tried that but it doesn't trigger debug-on-error, it's just a prompt that pops up in the minibuffer. Normally, I'd wait for the message to pop up and hit C-G, triggering the debugger. But with debug-on-quit toggled on, the message never shows up and gnus silently fails to load mail from that source. There is mail in the mail spool, and I also tried deleting and recreating the spool in case something was corrupted and causing gnus to choke. -- Jeremy Hankins