From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/14504 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri D'Elia Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Reply to self behavior Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:52:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87fwtbfowk.fsf@savara.sat.thregr.org> References: <871v59adu4.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87r5d9ocyg.fsf@savara.sat.thregr.org> <87mxnxo8fs.fsf@savara.sat.thregr.org> <87ei998nip.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877henh6c8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293972803 31126 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2011 12:53:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:53:23 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 02 13:53:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZNR0-0000MB-5M for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:53:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34757 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZNQz-0002Su-KL for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:53:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60780 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZNQw-0002SX-Qb for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:53:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZNQv-0006cm-1b for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:53:14 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:33276) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZNQu-0006cB-NS for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:53:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZNQs-0000Hm-KF for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:53:10 +0100 Original-Received: from 88-149-142-246.dynamic.ngi.it ([88.149.142.246]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:53:10 +0100 Original-Received: from wavexx by 88-149-142-246.dynamic.ngi.it with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:53:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88-149-142-246.dynamic.ngi.it User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/dhKfAF88GIQ6aW1H4jfmiagKl0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:14504 Archived-At: On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:51:03 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> (setq fill-flowed-display-column nil) (add-hook 'message-mode-hook >> (lambda () (turn-off-auto-fill) (setq truncate-lines nil) >> (use-hard-newlines))) (add-hook 'gnus-article-mode-hook (lambda () >> (setq truncate-lines nil))) My only complaint is that >> use-hard-newlines' shouldn't be necessary. >> Any line longer than `fill-flowed-encode-column' should trigger a >> format=flowed message automatically instead of generating a warning. > > That's the worst comb quoting and unreadable run-in garbage I've seen in > a long time. > > Impressive that you managed to create it using gnus. I'm impressed, too :P This is caused by (use-hard-newlines) actually. Since quoted and pasted text has no 'hard' newlines, it gets unwrapped. This makes replies to not-flowed messages substantially impossible. I don't think that's really expected. I was thinking of manually adding 'hard' properties to newlines in `message-mode-hook', but I don't think that would actually be sufficient. A safer approach could be replacing all newlines with 'hard' newlines in `message-send-hook' then setting `use-hard-newlines' manually to trick Gnus into sending a flowed message. Not fun.