Root problem for sorting the summary buffer

Root problem for sorting the summary buffer

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hello,

I've always had a problem regarding the sorting of articles in
the newsgroups.

Look at this:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Q                    1970-01-01 01:00  0.0k     Re: Using `eval-expression'
R.+ Lennart Borgman  2008-04-03 15:53  2.5k           \-> ...
R.  Thierry Volpiat  2008-04-03 15:58  3.6k           \-> ...
R.  Nikolaj Schumac  2008-04-03 20:45  2.2k           \-> ...
R.  weber            2008-04-03 23:11  1.9k                 \-> ...
R.  reader@newsguy.  2008-04-03 14:52  2.4k               \-> ...
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The poster's mail is presented as the last one of the list, with
all the answers being then correctly sorted (in chronological
order, from top to bottom).

What I logically want is:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
R.  reader@newsguy.  2008-04-03 14:52  2.4k     Using `eval-expression'
R.+ Lennart Borgman  2008-04-03 15:53  2.5k           \-> ...
R.  Thierry Volpiat  2008-04-03 15:58  3.6k           \-> ...
R.  Nikolaj Schumac  2008-04-03 20:45  2.2k           \-> ...
R.  weber            2008-04-03 23:11  1.9k                 \-> ...
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I thought I had correctly set up Gnus therefore:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; sorting the summary buffer
(setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
      '((not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-number)))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

What's wrong with this?

Best regards and many thanks for your help,
  Seb

-- 
Sébastien Vauban

Re: Root problem for sorting the summary buffer

[Chris Bayly]

>>>>> "Sebastien" == Sébastien Vauban <zthjwsqqafhv@spammotel.com> writes:

    Sebastien> Hello, I've always had a problem regarding the sorting of
    Sebastien> articles in the newsgroups.

Hi,

I don't have an answer for your question, but I can say that I'm seeing
the same thing...  In my .gnus I've set

(setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
      '((not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-number)))


And I will still have threads that appear out of order.  That is, I will
have a thread with a message dated Dec-07.  That thread will appear
before a message posted Nov-31.  Strangely it seems to have many less
"misses" without the '(not)' in there, other then the fact that you end
up with the bizarre "newest mail/news at the top", which has never
worked for me.  (Try explaining 'n'ext and 'p'revious to someone when
your mail/news is backwards like that! :)

Not sure if my google-foo is weak or if others aren't seeing this
problem, but it would be great if someone could confirm that this is
either a bug in Gnus, or a bug in the user.

-- 
Chris <cbayly@gmail.com>

Re: Root problem for sorting the summary buffer

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Chris,

Chris Bayly wrote:
>     Sebastien> Hello, I've always had a problem regarding the sorting of
>     Sebastien> articles in the newsgroups.
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't have an answer for your question, but I can say that I'm seeing
> the same thing...  In my .gnus I've set
>
> (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
>       '((not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-number)))

My current (satisfying) setup is:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
      ;; sort threads in descending article order
      (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
            '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number
              (not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date)))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sébastien Vauban

Re: Root problem for sorting the summary buffer

[Chris Bayly]

>>>>> "Sébastien" == Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

    Sébastien> My current (satisfying) setup is:

Ahh! That was one combination that I hadn't tried, and it works
perfectly, thank you!

-- 
Chris <cbayly@gmail.com>