From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/14223 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jim Burton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Noob seeks help with splitting and spam Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:42:34 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <87fww5yled.fsf@sdf-eu.org> References: <87ocavc7gq.fsf@sdf-eu.org> <87aamebb4t.fsf@sdf-eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291957122 13483 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 04:58:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 04:58:42 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 05:58:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQv3x-0006rR-EP for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:58:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56721 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQuzn-00024w-Id for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 23:54:15 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 129 Injection-Info: mx03.eternal-september.org; posting-host="PL9KzsTvATGCRk3eDCEQFA"; logging-data="30469"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19xU/GrN3hlrVp/nGLbEeLQ" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AkwqzJ/fTAhPocDpibsUtNYYpvc= sha1:l/zlU++9thwKUQe3WqI3nMAG8ZY= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:84855 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:27:50 -0500 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:14223 Archived-At: Hi Richard, thanks for your reply. Richard Riley writes: [snip] > > Spam filtering is confusing to start with. This is apparent > from the same issues cropping up in #emacs and other resources. That > said its incredibly powerful. > > I'm not sure how group settings for "auto spam check" work when set in > conjunction with nnimap-inbox and spam-split. > > But this is how my working setup looks:- > > (setq spam-use-bogofilter t) > > (require 'spam) > (spam-initialize) > > (setq nnimap-inbox "INBOX") > (setq nnimap-split-methods 'default) > (setq nnimap-split-download-body t) > > (setq nnmail-split-fancy '(|(: spam-split))) > (setq nnmail-split-methods 'nnmail-split-fancy) > > (setq spam-autodetect-recheck-messages nil) > (setq spam-mark-ham-unread-before-move-from-spam-group t) > (setq spam-mark-new-messages-in-spam-group-as-spam t) > (setq spam-split-group "Gnus-Spam") > > In the group customisation for my INBOXs (G c) I set :- > Huh! I didn't know you could customize all this on a group by group basis. I've a lot to learn about Gnus. In the meantime, I'll try out your settings and see how it works for me. Thanks for your help, Jim > ,---- > |[X] Spam Summary Exit Processor: [Value Menu] Spam Summary Exit Processor Choices: > | Set: > | [X] Spam: Bogofilter > | [ ] Spam: Blacklist > | > `---- > > Q: does this have to be set? Is spam-use-bogofilter in addition or a > precursor to this working? > > ,---- > | [X] Destination for spam-processed articles at summary exit: [Value Menu] Move to multiple groups: > | [INS] [DEL] Destination group: nnimap+riley:Gnus-Spam > | [INS] > | Where spam-processed articles will go at summary exit. > `---- > > note : fully qualified. > > Its in Gnus-Spam that I can recheck. The group customisation settings > for there are: > > ,---- > | [X] Group contents spam/ham classification: > | Group contents classification for spam sorting: [Value Menu] gnus-group-spam-classification-spam > | Spam group classification (requires spam.el). [More] > | > `---- > > the concept of "spam" and ham groups can be confusing too. mark as ham? > Its ham. Mark as spam? Its spam. The corresponding exit processors take > care. I need to reread the manual I think. e.g is INBOX a spam folder? > or a ham folder? or nothing? It certainly contains ham. And often > contains spam which I manually mark with M-d and is then moved to > gnus-spam when I exit the group. But what kind of group is it? > > ,---- > | [X] Spam Summary Exit Processor: [Value Menu] Spam Summary Exit Processor Choices: > | Set: > | [X] Spam: Bogofilter > | > `---- > > ,---- > | [X] Destination for spam-processed articles at summary exit: [Value Menu] Move to multiple groups: > | [INS] [DEL] Destination group: nnimap+riley:Trash > | [INS] > `---- > > ,---- > | [X] Destination for ham articles at summary exit from a spam group: [Value Menu] Move to a group: nnimap+riley:mail > | Where ham articles will go at summary exit from a spam group. > `---- > > > ,---- > | [X] Ham mark choices: > | Set: > | [ ] gnus-del-mark > | Mark used for del'd articles. > | [ ] gnus-read-mark > | Mark used for read articles. > | [X] gnus-ticked-mark > | Mark used for ticked articles. > | [ ] gnus-killed-mark > | Mark used for killed articles. > | [ ] gnus-kill-file-mark > | Mark used for articles killed by kill files. > | [ ] gnus-low-score-mark > | Mark used for articles with a low score. > | Marks considered ham (positively not spam). Such articles will be [More] > | > | [X] Spam mark choices: > | Set: > | [X] gnus-spam-mark > | Mark used for spam articles. > `---- > > Anyway, I hope this helps! "works for me" ... ;) > > > > > -- J Burton