From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/13802 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Bibbings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnutls windows smtp Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:01:42 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <87fx3mnfbt.fsf@gmail.com> References: <28cc156e-b321-4e62-83ef-34c17200a1bd@n34g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <87ocibavbc.fsf@desktop.xx.yy> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273018368 14901 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2010 00:12:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 00:12:48 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 05 02:12:47 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9SEJ-0001yu-0R for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 02:12:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53183 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O9SEI-0007wt-6u for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 20:12:46 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-2.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!feeder.erje.net!feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 46 Injection-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.motzarella.org; logging-data="5210"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19/DgpRU3fJwwRJ8G6+URvBUZ9YLK+ct0o=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (windows-nt) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100326-0, 26/03/2010), Outbound message Cancel-Lock: sha1:cNPigEWM2im1sME8ilK4I9xViNE= sha1:p39GhZGVTej2bR92gvs1U4dWJsk= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:84182 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:13802 Archived-At: Hugh Lawson writes: > Hugh writes: > >> Please point me to simple directions for using the >> gmail smtp server, by means of gnutls, from emacs gnus >> to send mail, in the Windows XP operating system. I am >> using this emacs: GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > > [ snip ] > > Perhaps this cannot be done. Does anybody know? Hi Hugh I remember that I wasn't able to get this working when I tried back in January. My setup was (and still is) GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) on Windows Vista. (Having said that, I have recently upgraded my Gnus to version v0.11, but the problems I was encountering were focussed in the Emacs mail package outside of Gnus). I was experimenting both with a version of gnutls from my Cygwin installation, and another that, IIRC, I built myself from source. I did some debugging (see http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.gnus/browse_thread/thread/d561d7cc266a2336/74092c866822bc04) and it seemed that a particular section of code was skipping sending a STARTTLS even though the Google smtp server was publishing STARTTLS as available. At the time I couldn't see that there was any way around the issue without modifying Emacs source, and I don't know Lisp that well. In the end I had to run through various old e-mail subscriptions that I had accumulated to see if I could find one that permitted use of its smtp server with any from address. I was lucky, and found one. My best assessment - though I didn't go into it that deeply - is that Gmail's smtp server is sending its EHLO response in form that, in some way, Emacs' smtpmail is a little confused by. Having given up on it myself, if you do get this working, I would love to know the solution too. Good luck! Regards Paul Bibbings