From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17944 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Gnus and gmane Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:30:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9hzamo0.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87io2gus2g.fsf@pietrop-debian64RfL.eng.citrite.net> <87d1sob20g.fsf@debian.uxu> <8737tk82f6.fsf@posteo.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453854681 15677 80.91.229.3 (27 Jan 2016 00:31:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 00:31:21 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 27 01:31:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aOE0t-0004tx-8N for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:31:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47555 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOE0s-0001FN-DC for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:31:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52196) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOE0p-0001FF-Tp for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOE0k-0000Lg-UG for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:31:07 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOE0k-0000Lb-N9 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:31:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aOE0i-0004pM-Re for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:31:00 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-227.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:31:00 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-227.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:31:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-Lines: 82 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-227.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lBGyxroQ1y7DO0K2+WmNUTHZgXA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17944 Archived-At: Pietro writes: > ;; IMAP personal email > (setq user-mail-address "xxxxxx@xxx.xx" > user-full-name "xxxxx") > (setq gnus-select-method > '(nnimap "xxxx" > (nnimap-stream ssl) > (nnimap-address "xxxxx") > (nnimap-server-port "imaps") > (nnir-search-engine imap) > (nnimap-expunge-on-close 'ask))) OK, so let's focus on Gmane and NNTP. You can comment this out temporarily, enclose it in (when nil ... ), or create a new .gnus and save the current one to .gnus-out-of-action or whatever to bring back later when Gmane works. > ;; Newsgroups > (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) Looks good. > ;; Ordering, I wish I knew what they are about > (setq gnus-extract-address-components (quote mail-extract-address-components)) > (setq gnus-article-sort-functions > (quote (gnus-article-sort-by-number gnus-article-sort-by-date))) > (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions > (quote > (gnus-thread-sort-by-number gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date))) I'd say Gnus does a good job sorting by default. Especially if you don't know what they are, you can comment that out at the very least until you get Gmane up. > (custom-set-variables > ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > '(send-mail-function (quote smtpmail-send-it)) > '(smtpmail-smtp-server "xxxxxx") > '(smtpmail-smtp-service 587)) You don't need custom to do that. This is better: (setq message-send-mail-function #'smtpmail-send-it) Note the CL-style hash quote to denote a function literal. > (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil) > > ;; init / fanfare / verbose > (setq gnus-inhibit-startup-message t) > (setq gnus-novice-user nil) > (setq gnus-expert-user t) > (setq gnus-interactive-exit 'quiet) > (setq gnus-verbose 10) ; [0, 10] > (setq gnus-verbose-backends 10) ; ditto That shouldn't affect your situation. You can temporarily remove it just the same, just like the SMTP stuff, just to do everything to isolate the problem. Another thing to try is, instead of having NNTP and Gmane as a secondary method, try to do it number one, i.e.: (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) I've had it number one (as now) but also as a secondary method, so both should work, of course, but in our attempts to isolate the problem it seems like a reasonable thing to do. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573