From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16736 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: nnimap: How do I work with the "folders" on the IMAP server? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:26:02 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87ha7cpnf9.fsf@moondust.localdomain> References: <87wqgpe0mh.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87k3c8yerl.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394040603 25157 80.91.229.3 (5 Mar 2014 17:30:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:30:03 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 05 18:30:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WLFdu-0002CZ-Mk for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 18:30:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53617 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WLFdu-0006b4-AI for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:30:06 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 66 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: t5x9GKKaQ82+6kfLntrtpw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:S0S1FfPPQV/4r9xLoW4UWXI40nE= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:87865 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16736 Archived-At: At 09:08 -0400 on Wednesday 2014-03-05, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes: > >> I can create a folder, but only indirectly, by copying or moving an >> article to the corresponding Gnus group from the *Summary* or *Article* >> buffer, using B c and B m. Is there a direct way to create one? > > `G m' in the group buffer. Thank you Lars. That does the trick, although I was initially taken aback by the prompt for a "From method". Initially I decided that since I didn't know what this was, perhaps I didn't need it, and just hit RET, which of course created me a local group unrelated to my IMAP server. Then I looked for the "From method" of an existing "folder" on my IMAP server in the Gnus Customize buffer (`G c') but found nothing, nor did I with a search in the index of the Gnus info file. It wasn't until I did a web search that it dawned upon me that in asking for the "From method" this was really asking for the Select method for the new group. From there it was smooth sailing. I would suggest that it wouuld be better if the prompt asked for the Select Method explicitly, perhaps with an example, or a note that tab completion works. E.g. "Select method for new group (use tab for completion): " Also, if `G m' prompted for the Select Method _before_ the name of the new group, then completion could be available for the name as well, which would be a Very Great Improvement. It's not reasonable to have to memorise an entire folder hierarchy! >> I cannot see how to rename a folder. > > `G r'. Thank you. And sorry. I ought to have found that by myself. (Actually looking back at my earliest notes, I did, but then forgot about it later.) >> I cannot see how to move a folder (and the folders it "contains") "into" >> another folder. > > Mailboxes aren't really recursive, so that's not possible. IMAP implements the semantics of a folder hierarchy, if not the reality of it. For me this heirarchical arrangement of saved emails is essential. Without it is like living with a file system that only supports directories one level deep; it's barely useable. It seems to me that to truly support IMAP, a mail client should be able to take advantage of this feature. If Gnus knew of the seperator character used, for example (nnimap-server-hierarchy-separator-character ".") then surely Gnus could support this functionality too? Regards, N.