Re: total count after expiring emails

Re: total count after expiring emails

[Lowell Gilbert]

prad <prad@towardsfreedom.com> writes:

> i have 92000+ emails and i expired more than half.
> then i did B C-M-e to get rid of the expired emails.
>
> i think that maildir folder is a lot smaller so presumably the expired
> emails have been removed.
>
> however, when i C-u RET i still get the 92000+ number i used to.
>
> i've restarted both gnus and dovecot.
>
> how do i get gnus to report on the correct number of emails i have in my
> inbox?

You're looking for the 'z' group command, I believe
(`gnus-server-compact-server'). See the manual nodes for 
"Group Line Specification" and "Server Commands".

Re: total count after expiring emails

[prad]

Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> writes:

> prad <prad@towardsfreedom.com> writes:
>
>> i have 92000+ emails and i expired more than half.
>> then i did B C-M-e to get rid of the expired emails.
>>
>> i think that maildir folder is a lot smaller so presumably the expired
>> emails have been removed.
>>
>> however, when i C-u RET i still get the 92000+ number i used to.
>>
>> i've restarted both gnus and dovecot.
>>
>> how do i get gnus to report on the correct number of emails i have in my
>> inbox?
>
> You're looking for the 'z' group command, I believe
> (`gnus-server-compact-server'). See the manual nodes for 
> "Group Line Specification" and "Server Commands".
>
that's what i would have thought too, but when i do 
gnus-server-compact-server
i get told that there is no server.

i also tried
gnus-group-compact-group (G z)
and the message says the backend doesn't support this operation. i think
it's implemented for nnml and i'm using nnimap.

i was of the opinion that dovecot kept track of the count and gnus got
its info from there, but i don't know.

i'm using maildir, so can i switch from nnimap to nnml? not sure that's
possible or even a good idea since i read that nnml isn't compatible
with "any other known format. It should be used with some caution."

-- 
in friendship,
prad

Re: total count after expiring emails

[Lowell Gilbert]

prad <prad@towardsfreedom.com> writes:

> Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> writes:
>
>> prad <prad@towardsfreedom.com> writes:
>>
>>> i have 92000+ emails and i expired more than half.
>>> then i did B C-M-e to get rid of the expired emails.
>>>
>>> i think that maildir folder is a lot smaller so presumably the expired
>>> emails have been removed.
>>>
>>> however, when i C-u RET i still get the 92000+ number i used to.
>>>
>>> i've restarted both gnus and dovecot.
>>>
>>> how do i get gnus to report on the correct number of emails i have in my
>>> inbox?
>>
>> You're looking for the 'z' group command, I believe
>> (`gnus-server-compact-server'). See the manual nodes for 
>> "Group Line Specification" and "Server Commands".
>>
> that's what i would have thought too, but when i do 
> gnus-server-compact-server
> i get told that there is no server.
>
> i also tried
> gnus-group-compact-group (G z)
> and the message says the backend doesn't support this operation. i think
> it's implemented for nnml and i'm using nnimap.
>
> i was of the opinion that dovecot kept track of the count and gnus got
> its info from there, but i don't know.
>
> i'm using maildir, so can i switch from nnimap to nnml? not sure that's
> possible or even a good idea since i read that nnml isn't compatible
> with "any other known format. It should be used with some caution."

Oh, right, I forgot you were doing maildir.

One thing you can do is move all of the remaining e-mails into the group
they're already in.

Re: total count after expiring emails

[prad]

Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> writes:

> One thing you can do is move all of the remaining e-mails into the group
> they're already in.
>
that sounds like a neat idea!

i just tried it for a single article, but before i take the big plunge
let me be sure i know what i'm doing.

first go into my INBOX.
then select the all articles and do a mark region M P r
then do operation on marked articles M-& B m into my INBOX

that's the way to do it?
 
-- 
in friendship,
prad

Re: total count after expiring emails

[prad]

prad <prad@towardsfreedom.com> writes:

> Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> writes:
>
>> One thing you can do is move all of the remaining e-mails into the group
>> they're already in.
>>
> that sounds like a neat idea!
>
> i just tried it for a single article, but before i take the big plunge
> let me be sure i know what i'm doing.
>
> first go into my INBOX.
> then select the all articles and do a mark region M P r
> then do operation on marked articles M-& B m into my INBOX
>
> that's the way to do it?
>
the only problem seems to be that the count keeps increasing as i move
the articles in to INBOX.

so possibly what i should be doing is
 
1. moving things into a temporary group
2. emptying my existing INBOX
3. moving everything from the temporary group back into the INBOX

or is there a better way?

-- 
in friendship,
prad

Re: total count after expiring emails

[Lowell Gilbert]

prad <prad@towardsfreedom.com> writes:

> Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> writes:
>
>> One thing you can do is move all of the remaining e-mails into the group
>> they're already in.
>>
> that sounds like a neat idea!
>
> i just tried it for a single article, but before i take the big plunge
> let me be sure i know what i'm doing.
>
> first go into my INBOX.
> then select the all articles and do a mark region M P r
> then do operation on marked articles M-& B m into my INBOX
>
> that's the way to do it?

It worked for me, but on nnml.

Re: total count after expiring emails

[prad]

Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> writes:

> It worked for me, but on nnml.
>
i've been playing with it for the past couple of days and have at least
found a way to get the correct number of emails with nnmaildir, though
the method isn't too efficient.

what i can do is 
rm .newsrc.eld (though they tell you not to)
rm all the dovecot files
rm -r News

then 
rmdir new
mv cur new
mkdir cur

when i launch gnus (it's like an initialization), imap rewrites the
dovecot files as it moves new/* cur/ as i look into my INBOX (or ask it
to mark all read).

something close to correct shows up.

the only other way i can see how to find out how many emails i actually
have is to
ls cur | wc -l
which involves considerably less effort. :D

thx for your ideas lowell!

-- 
in friendship,
prad

total count after expiring emails

[prad]

i have 92000+ emails and i expired more than half.
then i did B C-M-e to get rid of the expired emails.

i think that maildir folder is a lot smaller so presumably the expired
emails have been removed.

however, when i C-u RET i still get the 92000+ number i used to.

i've restarted both gnus and dovecot.

how do i get gnus to report on the correct number of emails i have in my
inbox?


-- 
in friendship,
prad