SMTP-AUTH and TLS

SMTP-AUTH and TLS

[Tobias Brink]

Hello.

I want to send mail via SMTP.  The server in question demands clients
to connect encrypted and authenticate using SMTP-AUTH PLAIN.  The
server refuses unencrypted authentication and refuses to relay mail
from unauthenticated connections.

I have the following in my .gnus.el:

  (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
  (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
  (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
      '(("smtp.myserver.tld" 25 nil nil)))
  (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.myserver.tld")

and something like the following in .authinfo:

  machine smtp.myserver.tld login tobias password secret

From setting `smtpmail-debug-info' and `smtpmail-debug-verb' to `t' I
see that Gnus doesn't even try to use TLS and authenticate (at least I
interpret the following output to mean that):

Sending...
Sending via mail...
220 smtp.myserver.tld ESMTP Postfix
250-smtp.myserver.tld
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 10240000
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8BITMIME
250 DSN
250 2.1.0 Ok
554 5.7.1 <someone@someisp.tld>: Relay access denied
221 2.0.0 Bye
smtpmail-send-it: Sending failed; SMTP protocol error

Setting up KMail to use this server works so the error must be in my
Gnus configuration, only I don't know where.

Versions: Gnus 5.11, GNU Emacs 22.1.1

Thanks in advance,
Tobias

Re: SMTP-AUTH and TLS

[Tobias Brink]

Tobias Brink <tobias.brinkNO.SPAM@gmail.com> writes:

[...]
> I have the following in my .gnus.el:
>
>   (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>   (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>   (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
>       '(("smtp.myserver.tld" 25 nil nil)))
>   (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.myserver.tld")

And strangely adding the following at the top fixes it:

,----
| (require 'smtpmail)
| (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.myserver.tld")
`----

Greetings,
Tobias

Re: SMTP-AUTH and TLS

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Oct 04 2007, Tobias Brink wrote:

> Tobias Brink <tobias.brinkNO.SPAM@gmail.com> writes:
>> I have the following in my .gnus.el:
>>
>>   (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>>   (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>>   (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
>>       '(("smtp.myserver.tld" 25 nil nil)))
>>   (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.myserver.tld")
>
> And strangely adding the following at the top fixes it:
>
> ,----
> | (require 'smtpmail)
> | (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.myserver.tld")
> `----

The doc string of `smtpmail-default-smtp-server' explains it:

,----[ <f1> v smtpmail-default-smtp-server RET ]
| smtpmail-default-smtp-server is a variable defined in `smtpmail'.
| Its value is nil
| 
| Documentation:
| *Specify default SMTP server.
| This only has effect if you specify it before loading the smtpmail library.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
`----

I must admit that I don't understand, why having both variables is a
good idea.

Please follow up on ding, when discussing this:
  Mail-Followup-To: <ding@gnus.org>
[Hope this survives all the nntp<->mail gateways.]

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: SMTP-AUTH and TLS

[someusernamehere]

On 3 oct, 18:05, Tobias Brink <tobias.brinkNO.S...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tobias Brink <tobias.brinkNO.S...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > I have the following in my .gnus.el:
>
> >   (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> >   (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> >   (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
> >       '(("smtp.myserver.tld" 25 nil nil)))
> >   (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.myserver.tld")
>
> And strangely adding the following at the top fixes it:
>
> ,----
> | (require 'smtpmail)
> | (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.myserver.tld")
> `----


i have tried this and doesnt work, I have the same problem, can you
paste your final work code here please?

Re: SMTP-AUTH and TLS

[Tobias Brink]

someusernamehere <someusernamehere@gmail.com> writes:

> i have tried this and doesnt work, I have the same problem, can you
> paste your final work code here please?

Here you go:

,----[ ~/.gnus.el ]
| (require 'smtpmail)
| (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
| (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
| (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
|       '(("YOURSMTP.TLD" 25 nil nil)))
| (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "YOURSMTP.TLD")
| (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "YOURSMTP.TLD") ; This is probably
|                                                    ; not needed.
`----

,----[ ~/.authinfo ]
| machine YOURSMTP.TLD login YOURUSERNAME password YOURPASSWORD
`----

Replace the strings in capital letters.

Hope that helps,
Tobias

Re: SMTP-AUTH and TLS

[someusernamehere]

On 8 oct, 13:40, Tobias Brink <tobias.brinkNO.S...@gmail.com> wrote:
> someusernamehere <someusernameh...@gmail.com> writes:
> > i have tried this and doesnt work, I have the same problem, can you
> > paste your final work code here please?
>
> Here you go:
>
> ,----[ ~/.gnus.el ]
> | (require 'smtpmail)
> | (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> | (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> | (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
> |       '(("YOURSMTP.TLD" 25 nil nil)))
> | (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "YOURSMTP.TLD")
> | (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "YOURSMTP.TLD") ; This is probably
> |                                                    ; not needed.
> `----
>
> ,----[ ~/.authinfo ]
> | machine YOURSMTP.TLD login YOURUSERNAME password YOURPASSWORD
> `----
>
> Replace the strings in capital letters.




Hey Tobias, thanks for your reply, but I get an error, this i s:

Sending via mail...
Loading mailalias...done
Unknown extension pipelining
ad-Orig-error: Sending failed; SMTP protocol error


hints?