From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1623 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2022 07:48:09 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Apr 2022 07:48:09 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1]:56510 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfzde-0000lx-SB for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 03:48:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfzdZ-0000lo-1m for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 03:48:01 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:54024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfzdX-0005i6-5l for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 03:48:00 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfzdU-000A7t-Eq for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 09:47:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Subject: Re: How to subsribe to a general mailing list? Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 09:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87ilr8m9qy.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87ee22a41n.fsf@penguin> <87tuaxput3.fsf@zoho.eu> <87czhjiyv6.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <8735idtgvg.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Pa8xP4tUlwivXlRq8FDpHlm3g/I= Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" Reply-to: Emanuel Berg From: Emanuel Berg via "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" Durand via "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader (in English)" wrote: >>> I hesitate to do this because I don't want to store the >>> mailing list in my mail inbox. >> >> What people usually do is to "split" (filter) email for >> a mailing list into a separate "group" (folder). > > I have tried to play with splitting mails using some simple > sieve scripts. It is indeed fun. :) I don't understand why technologist Sjøgren tells you this but it isn't because he thinks it is a good idea. And using makeshift scripts is an even worse idea. As for what is fun ... I think Gnus and Gmane are the most fun parts of Emacs except programming, but one can't be on top of one's game 24/7 (and one doesn't want that, either). And Emacs is the most fun program in the Unix world. And Unix is the most fun OS and also the most versatile and the fastest that can run on a computer. And a computer is the most fun you can have using the world's best software running on a machine one can acquire practically speaking zero bucks with a bit of ingenuity. So yes - to me it's fun enough! Scripts are also fun tho :) > Indeed. That is just some hypothetical (and silly) question. > The purpose of mentionning it is to show that I am not in > control of the process, though it is not a very > practical issue. There is no process to be in control of, it is all automated. You are in control of what you read and write. The superior interface gives you more control, better control. Sometimes it is so good and fast you don't even have time to think what you say, so you say a bunch of stupid things to you dear colleagues all over the world. _That_ is the amount of control you get with Gnus and Gmane! > Indeed. That is why I think I am not in control: I cannot > reverse some actions initiated by me. Ah, you mean like could edit a forum post in the golden days? EDIT: typo LOL :) You can't edit but you can send a second post and say, "Dear incal, I'm sorry to have wasted your time with my ignorant questions, I should have done like you said and just tested it, it is all clear now and I agree my previous ways were an embarrassment to the sport. I wish I could edit all those posts and delete my questions but as you said yourself, Gmane isn't like 'the golden day' forums. Nice phrase BTW, you are a cool guy!" Oh stop it! You don't need to say that! You are using Gnus and Gmane and that makes you cool as well, dammit. > I agree. I enjoy using Gnus a lot. That is why I am > searching for some way to view mailing lists in Gnus that > makes me feel better. :) ??? Is this some elaborate trolling? OK, you fooled me! > And indeed the administrators of gmane would know my subscriptions > to the mailing lists. What if I want to subscribe to some secret > mailing list Regretably that's impossible - or it doesn't compute I should say, undefined, since a mailing list with a user base of 1 is a contradiction in terms. > This makes me feel asymmetrical. "asymmetrical" ... you mean like doing something good, that takes several years of hard work? and screwing it all up, that takes several beers? > Thanks for the explanation. I am exactly concerned about > that micro possibility of people abusing the service. No. Anyway it isn't your job and you are unable to interfere in any way so don't pretend to meddle. > I don't know exactly what I shall try: I am already using > Gnus, and gmane. And my need was already satisfied by the > function `gnus-group-make-doc-group'. Sorry if I was not > clear about this point. Maybe next time consider not trying to combine computer time with your visits at the circus and the zoo? > Sorry if my theoretical, hypothetical and inpractical > questions, and / or my ambiguous phrasing, disturbed you. On the contrary, they are all added to the Emacs FAQ, for future reference and SEO purposes ONLY mind you. Q: Why do you always answer a question with a question? A: Does that bother you? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal