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[141.239.251.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y15sm5969040pfl.18.2021.09.10.15.39.02 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:39:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Newell To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Subject: Re: synchronizing gnus sessions on multiple computers Organization: Avi Gobbler Publishing References: <875yv9nxnn.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmtgn106.fsf@t14.reltub.ca> <87czpgku8w.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0joqew2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 12:39:01 -1000 In-Reply-To: <87k0joqew2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2021 14:50:21 -0700") Message-ID: <87ilz8oy2i.fsf@emailmessageidheader.nil> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1031; envelope-from=bobnewell@bobnewell.net; helo=mail-pj1-x1031.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" >> On Fri, Sep 10 2021, Bob Newell wrote: >>> I have rsync'd gnus for years with success. In addition to the files >>> already listed I sync .newsrc.eld, but that is updated infrequently. >>> Not strictly gnus entries, but related closely enough, I also sync >>> .authinfo and .msmtprc (as I use msmtp) and also .bbdb. >> When you are rsyncing gnus, are you doing this while emacs is running on >> the different machines? Or are you starting a fresh emacs session after >> all the files got updated on a machine? I should have been clearer about how I myself do the rsyncing. I avoid concurrency problems (among what has grown to be nine devices) by only using one device at a time. I upsync typically just before shutting down a machine, and downsync just after starting one up. I only use one instance of emacs at a time, globally. That may be too limiting for some use cases, but it avoids a host of issues. It doesn't limit me very much except that I need to be careful not to be running emacs under termux on an Android phone at the same time as I'm running on a laptop or desktop. I never, ever downsync while emacs/gnus etc. are running. I may, however upsync, but I still need to upsync again just prior to shutting down and after exiting emacs and other applications. As noted elsewhere in this thread, emacs updates some files only on exit. -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i - Via GNU/Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB