* Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
@ 2020-02-15 16:33 Richmond
2020-02-15 19:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Richmond @ 2020-02-15 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
from
the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
this
group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
(in
English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
or
M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
above
beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
bug?
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-15 16:33 Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups Richmond
@ 2020-02-15 19:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-02-15 21:02 ` Richmond
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-02-15 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richmond; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
> from
> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
> this
> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
> (in
> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
> or
> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
> above
> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
> bug?
When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
`gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-15 19:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-02-15 21:02 ` Richmond
2020-02-15 21:43 ` Richmond
2020-02-16 3:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Richmond @ 2020-02-15 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>
>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>> from
>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>> this
>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>> (in
>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>> or
>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>> above
>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>> bug?
> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
No, not in the first case gnus-group-describe-all-groups
I am seeing a list of all the groups, including those
I am not subscribed to, in the *group* buffer, beginning like this:
*:
*: aaa.inu-chan
aaa.inu-chan
*: ab.arnet
ab.arnet
*: ab.general ab.general
But note that it is not a description, it is simply the name of the
group repeated.
There is one error message in the messages buffer:
Reading descriptions file via nntp...
Opening nntp server on news.aioe.org...done
Reading descriptions file...done
Reading descriptions file via nnfolder...
Couldn't read newsgroups descriptions
Reading descriptions file via nntp...
Opening nntp server on news.gmane.io...
Opening nntp server on news.gmane.io...done
Reading descriptions file...done
Reading descriptions file via nntp...
Opening nntp server on news.mozilla.org...done
Reading descriptions file...done
If I use "Group and description apropos" from the menu and press return
I see this:
aaa.inu-chan
Inu-chan by Kenso KATO
(Moderated)
ab.arnet
No description.
(Moderated)
ab.general
Items of general interest in Alberta,
Canada.
In it's own buffer, which at least proves to me that there is a
description for these groups.
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-15 21:02 ` Richmond
@ 2020-02-15 21:43 ` Richmond
2020-02-16 3:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Richmond @ 2020-02-15 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I have to try to reformat that:
*:
*: aaa.inu-chan aaa.inu-chan
*: ab.arnet ab.arnet
*: ab.general ab.general
*: ab.jobs ab.jobs
*: ab.politics ab.politics
*: abg.allgemein abg.allgemein
*: abg.amiga abg.amiga
*: abg.comp abg.comp
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-15 21:02 ` Richmond
2020-02-15 21:43 ` Richmond
@ 2020-02-16 3:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-02-16 15:58 ` Richmond
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-02-16 3:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richmond; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>> from
>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>> this
>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>> (in
>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>> or
>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>> above
>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>> bug?
>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>
> No, not in the first case gnus-group-describe-all-groups
> I am seeing a list of all the groups, including those
> I am not subscribed to,
FWIW, I think this is sub-optimal behavior, as well -- at the very
least, there should be two different paths for seeing descriptions of
groups you're subscribed to, and all groups on a server.
[...]
> There is one error message in the messages buffer:
>
> Reading descriptions file via nntp...
> Opening nntp server on news.aioe.org...done
> Reading descriptions file...done
> Reading descriptions file via nnfolder...
> Couldn't read newsgroups descriptions
I think this just means there are no group descriptions on an nnfolder
server.
> Opening nntp server on news.gmane.io...
> Opening nntp server on news.gmane.io...done
> Reading descriptions file...done
> Reading descriptions file via nntp...
> Opening nntp server on news.mozilla.org...done
> Reading descriptions file...done
Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
Eric
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-16 3:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-02-16 15:58 ` Richmond
2020-02-16 21:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Richmond @ 2020-02-16 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>
>> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>>> from
>>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>>> this
>>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>>> (in
>>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>>> or
>>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>>> above
>>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>>> bug?
>>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>>
> Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
> descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
> freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
>
There are no descriptions from any servers that I have tried (using
gnus-group-describe-all-groups). You could try news.aioe.org, that is
freely available.
I expect if you don't want a list of all groups with their descriptions
then that is when to use the apropos version, which works.
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-16 15:58 ` Richmond
@ 2020-02-16 21:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-02-16 21:49 ` Richmond
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-02-16 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richmond; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>>>> from
>>>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>>>> this
>>>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>>>> (in
>>>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>>>> or
>>>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>>>> above
>>>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>>>> bug?
>>>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>>>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>>>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>>>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>>>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>>>
>
>> Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
>> descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
>> freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
>>
> There are no descriptions from any servers that I have tried (using
> gnus-group-describe-all-groups). You could try news.aioe.org, that is
> freely available.
So far it works fine for me for news.gmane.io and news.aioe.org:
*: nntp+news.aioe.org:ak.test Messages with the beta-nature.
*: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.biz Advertisements for Akron area businesses.
*: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.freenet Discussion about the Akron Regional Free-Net.
*: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.internet Internet access in the Akron, Ohio, area.
*: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.jobs announcements and discussion of jobs in the Akron area.
news.mozilla.org simply seems to not provide group descriptions at all.
Remind me of the version of Emacs/Gnus you're using?
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-16 21:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-02-16 21:49 ` Richmond
2020-02-16 22:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Richmond @ 2020-02-16 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>
>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>
>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>>>>> (in
>>>>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>>>>> above
>>>>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>>>>> bug?
>>>>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>>>>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>>>>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>>>>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>>>>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>>>>
>>
>>> Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
>>> descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
>>> freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
>>>
>> There are no descriptions from any servers that I have tried (using
>> gnus-group-describe-all-groups). You could try news.aioe.org, that is
>> freely available.
>
> So far it works fine for me for news.gmane.io and news.aioe.org:
>
> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:ak.test Messages with the beta-nature.
> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.biz Advertisements for Akron area businesses.
> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.freenet Discussion about the Akron Regional Free-Net.
> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.internet Internet access in the Akron, Ohio, area.
> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.jobs announcements and discussion of jobs in the Akron area.
>
> news.mozilla.org simply seems to not provide group descriptions at all.
>
> Remind me of the version of Emacs/Gnus you're using?
26.3. I compiled it from source.
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-16 21:49 ` Richmond
@ 2020-02-16 22:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-02-17 16:51 ` Richmond
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-02-16 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richmond; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>>>>>> bug?
>>>>>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>>>>>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>>>>>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>>>>>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>>>>>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
>>>> descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
>>>> freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
>>>>
>>> There are no descriptions from any servers that I have tried (using
>>> gnus-group-describe-all-groups). You could try news.aioe.org, that is
>>> freely available.
>>
>> So far it works fine for me for news.gmane.io and news.aioe.org:
>>
>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:ak.test Messages with the beta-nature.
>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.biz Advertisements for Akron area businesses.
>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.freenet Discussion about the Akron Regional Free-Net.
>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.internet Internet access in the Akron, Ohio, area.
>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.jobs announcements and discussion of jobs in the Akron area.
>>
>> news.mozilla.org simply seems to not provide group descriptions at all.
>>
>> Remind me of the version of Emacs/Gnus you're using?
>
> 26.3. I compiled it from source.
Okay, with Emacs 26 I am able to reproduce that behavior. I don't think
Emacs 26 is getting bugfixes at this point, though, so I'm not sure what
to tell you. Is upgrading your Emacs a possibility?
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-16 22:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-02-17 16:51 ` Richmond
2020-02-17 18:16 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Richmond @ 2020-02-17 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>
>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>
>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>>>>>>> bug?
>>>>>>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>>>>>>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>>>>>>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>>>>>>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>>>>>>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
>>>>> descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
>>>>> freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
>>>>>
>>>> There are no descriptions from any servers that I have tried (using
>>>> gnus-group-describe-all-groups). You could try news.aioe.org, that is
>>>> freely available.
>>>
>>> So far it works fine for me for news.gmane.io and news.aioe.org:
>>>
>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:ak.test Messages with the beta-nature.
>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.biz Advertisements for Akron area businesses.
>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.freenet Discussion about the Akron Regional Free-Net.
>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.internet Internet access in the Akron, Ohio, area.
>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.jobs announcements and discussion of jobs in the Akron area.
>>>
>>> news.mozilla.org simply seems to not provide group descriptions at all.
>>>
>>> Remind me of the version of Emacs/Gnus you're using?
>>
>> 26.3. I compiled it from source.
>
> Okay, with Emacs 26 I am able to reproduce that behavior. I don't think
> Emacs 26 is getting bugfixes at this point, though, so I'm not sure what
> to tell you. Is upgrading your Emacs a possibility?
OK I have upgraded to 27, and that has fixed the problem, although there
is a non-existant group called 215 with the description 'Newsgroup
descriptions in form "group description" '
Thanks for your help!
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* Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
2020-02-17 16:51 ` Richmond
@ 2020-02-17 18:16 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-02-17 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richmond; +Cc: info-gnus-english
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>>>>>>>> bug?
>>>>>>>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>>>>>>>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>>>>>>>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>>>>>>>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>>>>>>>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
>>>>>> descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
>>>>>> freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
>>>>>>
>>>>> There are no descriptions from any servers that I have tried (using
>>>>> gnus-group-describe-all-groups). You could try news.aioe.org, that is
>>>>> freely available.
>>>>
>>>> So far it works fine for me for news.gmane.io and news.aioe.org:
>>>>
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:ak.test Messages with the beta-nature.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.biz Advertisements for Akron area businesses.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.freenet Discussion about the Akron Regional Free-Net.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.internet Internet access in the Akron, Ohio, area.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.jobs announcements and discussion of jobs in the Akron area.
>>>>
>>>> news.mozilla.org simply seems to not provide group descriptions at all.
>>>>
>>>> Remind me of the version of Emacs/Gnus you're using?
>>>
>>> 26.3. I compiled it from source.
>>
>> Okay, with Emacs 26 I am able to reproduce that behavior. I don't think
>> Emacs 26 is getting bugfixes at this point, though, so I'm not sure what
>> to tell you. Is upgrading your Emacs a possibility?
>
> OK I have upgraded to 27, and that has fixed the problem, although there
> is a non-existant group called 215 with the description 'Newsgroup
> descriptions in form "group description" '
Yup, I noticed the same thing. I think I actually introduced this error
with an earlier change, and will look into fixing it.
> Thanks for your help!
My pleasure.
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