From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/18859 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: on automatic gnus-summary-insert-new-articles after posting Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 10:17:18 -0700 Message-ID: <87in4y55cx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <86d0v7jrvd.fsf@dev.null> <8636w2hp1b.fsf@dev.null> <86va8yni9x.fsf@dev.null> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532884530 7305 195.159.176.226 (29 Jul 2018 17:15:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 29 19:15:26 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fjpHw-0001lv-KX for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:15:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49146 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjpK3-00047B-Ar for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 13:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33773) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjpJz-00046q-7W for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 13:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjpJw-0001Rl-2T for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 13:17:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=36155 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjpJv-0001R3-SQ for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 13:17:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fjpHm-0001at-9r for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:15:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 49 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:zQu9Zl5UZRIX7yi4/FEp6iae+l0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "info-gnus-english" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:18859 Archived-At: Robert Girault writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Robert Girault writes: >> >> [...] >> >>> This brings me to a point I've been trying to set up Gnus for. I'd like >>> to keep, for a while, a history of everything I wrote. Saving messages >>> locally isn't good enough because the context is gone. The context is >>> the thread. >>> >>> When I enter a group, I feel lost. I think it's slrn that I've used in >>> the past. When I'd enter a news group, I'd have a clear idea of what's >>> happening---which threads are growing and which are not. >> >> I looked up slrn, and interestingly the author seemed to have written it >> because he found Gnus too slow! > > I can't compare it myself. I run them on different systems. > >> I don't know how slrn does it, so I don't know exactly what effect >> you're after. Are you using threading? I've got `gnus-show-threads' set >> to t and `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set to 'some, and that shows me just >> as much context as I want. > > Surprisingly perhaps, I feel better without threading, so I turned it > off. When I wanna see a parent message, I say ^. > >>> Also, my way of working is to write articles, but only post them after >>> I've reviewed them. I haven't yet acquired skills enough to do that >>> with Gnus. >>> >>> I know it's possible to save them as drafts and send them later, but I'd >>> like to distinguish between partially written messages from messages >>> queued for delivery. >> >> You can use the agent for this. When you're finished with a message, hit >> "C-c C-j" (gnus-delay-article), and you can choose a future date at >> which the message will send. It won't actually send at that date unless >> you run the `gnus-delay-send-queue' command in the *Group* buffer. That >> might do what you want, though I don't know how easy it is to edit >> messages once you've added them to the queue. > > The manual says it will send if I check for new messages, but I'm > thinking I must run gnus-delay-initialize. I won't turn it on for now. Oops, that's true, I'd forgotten that part.