what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Brady Trainor]

I took a couple stabs at using GNUS in the past, but was still probably 
too green with Emacs and the type of thinking. But finally, I think GNUS 
is here to stay, and it feels WAAAAYY better than relying solely on 
"more GUI" clients. Managing emails and emailing has never felt so easy.

However, my use of newsgroups is still a little rough around the edges, 
and I anticipate some fiddling. In the end, I usually download all the 
headers, for instance with Thunderbird I've done this across a dual 
boot. Unfortunately, I think this has provoked the gmane to block my 
ISP, though I was lucky enough I think the block was removed soon after.

MY QUESTION:

Is there another entity similar to gmane, more recreational say, or less 
valuable to me, where I can mess with my configuration and not risk an 
ISP block? I've read online something about ISP providers may do this, 
but I don't really understand. Is this my internet provider? Or would I 
contact a local institution such as University of Washington?

Thank you,
Brady

Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Adam Sjøgren]

Brady Trainor <algebrat@uw.edu> writes:

> Is there another entity similar to gmane, more recreational say, or
> less valuable to me, where I can mess with my configuration

It sounds like you are looking for open news servers. There are
multiple, one is dotsrc.org (registration required, though):

 * http://dotsrc.org/usenet/


  Best regards,

    Adam


P.S. It is spelled "Gnus" these days, not GNUS.

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Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[SlackRat]

On 2014-09-19 20:30, Brady Trainor wrote:
> I took a couple stabs at using GNUS in the past, but was still 
> probably too green with Emacs and the type of thinking. But finally, I 
> think GNUS is here to stay, and it feels WAAAAYY better than relying 
> solely on "more GUI" clients. Managing emails and emailing has never 
> felt so easy.
>
> However, my use of newsgroups is still a little rough around the 
> edges, and I anticipate some fiddling. In the end, I usually download 
> all the headers, for instance with Thunderbird I've done this across a 
> dual boot. Unfortunately, I think this has provoked the gmane to block 
> my ISP, though I was lucky enough I think the block was removed soon 
> after.
>
> MY QUESTION:
>
> Is there another entity similar to gmane, more recreational say, or 
> less valuable to me, where I can mess with my configuration and not 
> risk an ISP block? I've read online something about ISP providers may 
> do this, but I don't really understand. Is this my internet provider? 
> Or would I contact a local institution such as University of Washington?

i'm not sure what you are looking for, but maybe these will help:

http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/eternal-september.html
http://www.eternal-september.org/

You could subscribe to alt.test.test for experimentation

Slackrat

Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Emanuel Berg]

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> It sounds like you are looking for open news servers.
> There are multiple, one is dotsrc.org (registration
> required, though) ...

Another is Aioe.org - you don't have to register,
there.

As for channels, there is alt.test where you can send
messages, reply to them, and see what happens.

Other that that, my impression is that your (the OP's)
mental image of Usenet is that of the decline days,
with the binary groups creating havoc for the ISPs and
all. It isn't like that - relax.

And check out my "fan" page:

http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/gnus/index.html

> P.S. It is spelled "Gnus" these days, not GNUS.

Don't say that: read the documentation for
`ispell-message'!

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Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Emanuel Berg]

Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:

> As for channels, there is alt.test where you can send
> messages, reply to them, and see what happens.

By channel I mean newsgroup (or group), of course.

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Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Adam Sjøgren]

Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:

> As for channels, there is alt.test where you can send
> messages, reply to them, and see what happens.

Why are you whippersnappers calling newsgroups "channels" all of the
sudden?


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Brady Trainor]

Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:

> And check out my "fan" page:
>
> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/gnus/index.html

Indeed, I have some lines of code from here. One cannot use this stuff
without scurrying the internet for every line of code one can grok a
bit. 

Brady

Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Brady Trainor]

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Brady Trainor <algebrat@uw.edu> writes:
>
>> Is there another entity similar to gmane, more recreational say, or
>> less valuable to me, where I can mess with my configuration
>
> It sounds like you are looking for open news servers. There are
> multiple, one is dotsrc.org (registration required, though):
>
>  * http://dotsrc.org/usenet/
>
>
>   Best regards,
>
>     Adam
>
>
> P.S. It is spelled "Gnus" these days, not GNUS.


Oh, this is very cool. I feel like I just got my babel fish. 


Brady

Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Brady Trainor]

Brady Trainor <algebrat@uw.edu> writes:

> ... In the end, I usually download
> all the headers, for instance ... across a
> dual boot. Unfortunately, I think this has provoked the gmane to block
> my ISP, though I was lucky enough I think the block was removed soon
> after.

Hooray! Finally have a solution to stop worrying about the provocative
downloading of all headers, with 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-parameters 
      '(
        ...
        ("nntp.*"
         (display . 100))
        ))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I wonder why I couldn't get the following to work? 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-parameters 
      '(
        ...
        ("nntp.*"
         (gnus-large-newsgroup 100))
        ))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Also, I'm curious why Gnus sometimes eats the empty line before the
formatted region starting at

,----
| --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
`----


Brady

Re: what is a good newsgroup to experiment with my gnus nntp settings?

[Brady Trainor]

Brady Trainor <algebrat@uw.edu> writes:

> Also, I'm curious why Gnus sometimes eats the empty line before the
> formatted region starting at
>
> ,----
> | --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> `----

I fixed this, guessing it was the line

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-treat-strip-trailing-blank-lines 't)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

All I had to do was glance at the documentation, and realize it should
be 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-treat-strip-trailing-blank-lines 'last)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I have this so that SPC'ing through articles doesn't pause on a
seemingly blank page, as a result of trailing empty lines in folks'
mails. 


Brady