From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/11759 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus and pine Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:41:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87iqpccu7v.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <85tz8z7kwq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87abaowwrq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229960457 25983 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2008 15:40:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:40:57 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 16:42:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LEmuY-0006CJ-HJ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:41:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40885 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEmtL-0006Nz-UU for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:40:23 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus X-Face: #vK]N[`vqjuod*|)'[iD7/"3AB-ApT%fmN"LWAg@oS7OesGv~)n[OBTLM#I="J'Y^-7I I/ps7o_'IK@#-Rs{::DZ@O8yS|fexe,XslY[:dNWOb~>?mC-&i_c)say:"\IpA.5U.b]'NY; Pks{lb h.+#6%DpZuaK3dcHB`Av3zc:r!C%~s0&m, tWj]&}, qg.+0ww2gK%f!:GK|wMl.I!(voY*1"^li8"~B BNG)9LvPi?^DMR-GVDnZqhu*3Hi, +g=wFhI)BL6&u{EOVEHjVEVq~d?_}lMntWAc3(6?kftjc>_f>! g0wM(qPM$d5]^TT_Qyi&L?LGVG)SHN;Gk/,pkY9,~ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QBsiR/9T9pX1TKF5rCvdo1PmFmE= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: corona.rz.uni-ulm.de Original-X-Trace: news.uni-ulm.de 1229957362 134.60.1.50 (22 Dec 2008 15:49:22 +0100) Original-Lines: 93 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-2.dfn.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!peernews!news.uni-ulm.de!primula.reiner-steib.de!not-for-mail Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:82018 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:11759 Archived-At: On Mon, Dec 22 2008, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: > Xavier Maillard writes: > [...] >>> I would be interested to know if there are statistics about the >>> gnus userbase. >> >> Gnus is popular but I am pretty comfident there are not that much >> users. [...] > b) why are you working on MSDOS screens (I have a white on black > screen setup for Emacs) I'd guess pine users would get the same question. > Methinks, Gnus followers must be in the low thousands which itself > might be optimistic? :-) Here are some data points: (1) Debian popularity contest statistics for alpine,gnus: Shows that pine (alpine) has approximately 3 times more users than (al)pine. Problem: You don't no need to use the separate Debian package "gnus" because Gnus is also part of the Emacs packages (emacsNN*), AFAICS. (2) Gmane Posting user agents statistics (mailing lists to news gateway) Display comparable numbers of users for pine (3.2%) and Gnus (2.2%). Problems: Quite outdated. Dunno if only posting thru Gmane is counted (i.e. users sending messages via NNTP) or if the stats also count mails received from the mailing lists. (3) Posting statistics for de.* (usenet) This is a statistic on the number of post, not about the number of users for German language newsgroups. http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=stats-reader-11.2008@news.arcor.de (Translated ...) Posting statistic for de.* 11.2008 User-Agent|X-Newsreader|X-Mailer TOP100: Percent Number Type --------------------------------------------------------- 19.55 30366 Thunderbird 11.08 17204 Microsoft Outlook Express 9.77 15168 Mozilla 9.09 14112 Forte Agent 8.15 12657 40tude_Dialog 7.25 11257 7.23 11237 G2/1.0 3.41 5289 KNode 2.94 4562 aktienboard forums 2.36 3661 tin 2.29 3554 MacSOUP 2.26 3511 slrn 2.00 3103 Xnews 1.68 2605 Gnus 0.93 1441 Forte Free Agent 0.77 1203 Pan 0.73 1128 Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 0.70 1091 MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.70.2067 0.65 1016 OpenXP 0.64 1000 Hamster 0.48 749 Newsoffice.de - based on NewsPortal 0.48 748 Opera 0.45 703 Sylpheed 0.33 512 FreeXP (CrossPoint) 0.31 482 ProNews 0.27 423 bleachbot 0.26 397 MT-NewsWatcher 0.26 397 Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 0.19 302 trn [...] 0.02 36 Alpine 1.10 (LNX 962 2008-03-14) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/