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Sodahberk's _TL2X_: "24'84" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:48:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <875ytzqzex.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:39:02 -0700") Message-ID: <87k0ie4l8w.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Lars-Johan Liman , info-gnus-english@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Looking over the code, I'm inclined to agree with Lars-Johan here: there > isn't really any need to halt the process, what's important is that the > user be made aware of the failure. I agree. > Allow me to re-introduce my suggestion of using warnings! It's looking > better and better the more I consider it. `delay-warning' is just what > we want: it puts messages in the hopper, which aren't displayed until > the current command is completely finished, instead of messages > clobbering each other and getting buried. It has its own private buffer, > keeping information separate. There are plenty of user-facing knobs, and > facilities for hiding or silencing the warnings. I'm not sure I want to be popping up a buffer at the user for network errors and the like -- it's expected that a news reader will have some network problems, and putting up a buffer about it isn't very helpful. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no