From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/15912 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus-no-server and startup level Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:41:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87k3uo5ljx.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87mwzlp3ek.fsf@syk.fi> <87mwzl2lls.fsf@syk.fi> <87mwzlyuay.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87391d804j.fsf@syk.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350542526 9829 80.91.229.3 (18 Oct 2012 06:42:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:42:06 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 18 08:42:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TOjo0-0007jZ-EL for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:42:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43838 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TOjnt-00025c-ET for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TOjnq-00024e-JB for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:41:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TOjnp-0003qX-Cc for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:41:58 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34650) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TOjnp-0003qL-5l for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:41:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TOjnu-0007Ws-5Q for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:42:02 +0200 Original-Received: from tsdh.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.67.142]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:42:02 +0200 Original-Received: from tsdh by tsdh.uni-koblenz.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:42:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: tsdh.uni-koblenz.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ch1e3SSfz//miuZdLb7rf42smhk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:15912 Archived-At: Jarmo Hurri writes: >> But that `gnus-no-server' is concerned with levels at all doesn't >> seem right. Why should I want to use a different level with >> `gnus-no-server' than with `gnus'? > > I think they give the explanation here: > > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/11479 > > That is, for historical reasons: it seems that a large number of users > are used to reading their mail this way. Well, ok, now it's 15 years later. Maybe we should take another stab at separating "don't contact servers" from "show only this level". At least I agree very much with Dan Christensen's suggestions. (But my vote shouldn't count too much. I almost never use gnus-no-server.) Bye, Tassilo