reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

[Uwe Brauer]

Hi

I am reading my emails, via the nnimap backend and sometimes I start
thunderbird first, which then first moves unread emails to certain folders
using filter rules.

Here comes the question: can I create a gnus virtual group which would
display only the unread emails, of the groups I am subscribed to in gnus?

Thanks 


Uwe Brauer 


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Re: reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Hi
>
> I am reading my emails, via the nnimap backend and sometimes I start
> thunderbird first, which then first moves unread emails to certain folders
> using filter rules.
>
> Here comes the question: can I create a gnus virtual group which would
> display only the unread emails, of the groups I am subscribed to in gnus?

You should be able to create a persistent nnir search group, where the
search terms are just "UNSEEN".


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Re: reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "EA" == Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I am reading my emails, via the nnimap backend and sometimes I start
>> thunderbird first, which then first moves unread emails to certain folders
>> using filter rules.
>> 
>> Here comes the question: can I create a gnus virtual group which would
>> display only the unread emails, of the groups I am subscribed to in gnus?

> You should be able to create a persistent nnir search group, where the
> search terms are just "UNSEEN".

Thanks, but it seems not to work.

In the group buffer I first visited a group which contains one unread
message, I left that group and typed outside 

G G
unseen
and received the following *error* message
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Couldn’t request group nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf: S...")
signal(error ("Couldn’t request group nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf: S..."))
error("Couldn't request group %s: %s" "nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" "Search produced empty results.")
gnus-select-newsgroup("nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" t nil)
gnus-summary-read-group-1("nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" t t nil nil nil)
gnus-summary-read-group("nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" t t nil nil nil nil)
gnus-group-read-group(t t "nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" nil)
gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group("nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" (nnir "nnir") nil nil nil nil ((nnir-specs (nnir-query-spec (query . "unseen")) (nnir-group-spec ("nnimap:UCMgmail" ("nnimap+UCMgmail:Karp"))))))
gnus-group-make-nnir-group(nil)
funcall-interactively(gnus-group-make-nnir-group nil)
call-interactively(gnus-group-make-nnir-group nil nil)
command-execute(gnus-group-make-nnir-group)

My setting is 

(nnimap "UCMgmail"
(nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com")
(nnimap-server-port 993)
;; (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo.gpg")
(nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
(nnimap-stream ssl)
;;(nnimap-stream starttls)
(nnimap-fetch-partial-articles t)
(nnir-search-engine imap))


So I am puzzled,

What went wrong?

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Re: reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>>> "EA" == Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I am reading my emails, via the nnimap backend and sometimes I start
>>> thunderbird first, which then first moves unread emails to certain folders
>>> using filter rules.
>>> 
>>> Here comes the question: can I create a gnus virtual group which would
>>> display only the unread emails, of the groups I am subscribed to in gnus?
>
>> You should be able to create a persistent nnir search group, where the
>> search terms are just "UNSEEN".
>
> Thanks, but it seems not to work.
>
> In the group buffer I first visited a group which contains one unread
> message, I left that group and typed outside 
>
> G G
> unseen
> and received the following *error* message
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Couldn’t request group nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf: S...")
> signal(error ("Couldn’t request group nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf: S..."))
> error("Couldn't request group %s: %s" "nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" "Search produced empty results.")
> gnus-select-newsgroup("nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" t nil)
> gnus-summary-read-group-1("nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" t t nil nil nil)
> gnus-summary-read-group("nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" t t nil nil nil nil)
> gnus-group-read-group(t t "nnir:nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" nil)
> gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group("nnir-87a764m2w8.fsf" (nnir "nnir")
> nil nil nil nil ((nnir-specs (nnir-query-spec (query . "unseen"))
> (nnir-group-spec ("nnimap:UCMgmail" ("nnimap+UCMgmail:Karp"))))))
> gnus-group-make-nnir-group(nil)
> funcall-interactively(gnus-group-make-nnir-group nil)
> call-interactively(gnus-group-make-nnir-group nil nil)
> command-execute(gnus-group-make-nnir-group)
>
> My setting is 
>
> (nnimap "UCMgmail"
> (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com")
> (nnimap-server-port 993)
> ;; (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo.gpg")
> (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
> (nnimap-stream ssl)
> ;;(nnimap-stream starttls)
> (nnimap-fetch-partial-articles t)
> (nnir-search-engine imap))

My guess is that you'll have to set `nnir-imap-default-search-key' to
"imap": that allows your query string to use the full imap search
syntax. Otherwise you're stuck using `nnir-imap-default-search-key'. The
whole system is very odd.

Eric

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Re: reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

[Andrew Cohen]

By default the query you tried just searches for the word "unseen" in
messages in the group. Instead try using a prefix arg

C-u G G

then type "UNSEEN" in response to the "Query" prompt

and type "imap" from the "Imap search in" prompt.

If this works then you can create a persistent search.


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Re: reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "AC" == Andrew Cohen <cohen@bu.edu> writes:

   > By default the query you tried just searches for the word "unseen" in
   > messages in the group. Instead try using a prefix arg

   > C-u G G

   > then type "UNSEEN" in response to the "Query" prompt

   > and type "imap" from the "Imap search in" prompt.

   > If this works then you can create a persistent search.

Aha thanks that worked for one single group, reading the documentation, 

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Basic-Usage.html

«Calling for an nnir search with the cursor on a topic heading will
search all the groups under that heading. » 



I thought, for topic configuration like this 

      [ Imap_UCM_Gmail 65083 ] 
*            0: nnimap+UCMgmail:INBOX
        [ Mathematik 55 ] 
               0: nnimap+UCMgmail:Submitted
          [ Kollegen 55 ] 
                 3: nnimap+UCMgmail:1-Helix

Putting the cursor on       [ Imap_UCM_Gmail 65083 ] 

and repeating the above procedure then  would display all the unseen message in all
subscribed groups. However, it did  not.

So:

    1. If I want to do that interatively, what should I do?

    2. What is the syntax for persistent search, which would generate me
       a group say UNSEEN, which displays all the unseen message in all
       subscribed imap groups?

Thank you very much

Uwe Brauer

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Re: reading email via imap, make one virtual group consisting of all UNREAD mails in the imap folders

[Jose A. Ortega Ruiz]

On Sat, Feb 01 2020, Uwe Brauer wrote:

>>>> "AC" == Andrew Cohen <cohen@bu.edu> writes:
>
>    > By default the query you tried just searches for the word "unseen" in
>    > messages in the group. Instead try using a prefix arg
>
>    > C-u G G
>
>    > then type "UNSEEN" in response to the "Query" prompt
>
>    > and type "imap" from the "Imap search in" prompt.
>
>    > If this works then you can create a persistent search.
>
> Aha thanks that worked for one single group, reading the documentation, 
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Basic-Usage.html
>
> «Calling for an nnir search with the cursor on a topic heading will
> search all the groups under that heading. » 

I've found out (in a recent build of emacs from master) that that's only
the case for the groups in the topic maked as 'permanently visible'.
Well, not sure if it's the *only* case, but my queries are looking only
at groups marked that way.

HTH,
jao
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imaginary part.
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