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* Archiving posts to mbox file
@ 2009-03-07 13:06 Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-07 15:36 ` Kamil Jońca
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Jońca @ 2009-03-07 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english


I want to archive my posts to Unix mbox file, so I put into my .gnus.el
something like this:

====
(setq gnus-message-archive-method  '(nnmbox "MyPosts"  (nnmbox-mbox-file "~/Gnus/News/My_Posts" nnmbox-get-new-mail f)))
(setq gnus-message-archive-group "MyPosts")
===

And then I got messages:
====
movemail: Is a directory for /home/kjonca/Mail/ (1 return).  Continue? (yes or no) 
====

Am I missing something?


-- 
KJ
Linux: The OS people choose without $ 200,000,000 of persuasion.
        -- Mike Coleman

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* Re: Archiving posts to mbox file
  2009-03-07 13:06 Archiving posts to mbox file Kamil Jońca
@ 2009-03-07 15:36 ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-07 17:07   ` Archiving posts Andrzej Adam Filip
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Jońca @ 2009-03-07 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:

> I want to archive my posts to Unix mbox file, so I put into my .gnus.el
> something like this:
>
> ====
> (setq gnus-message-archive-method  '(nnmbox "MyPosts"  (nnmbox-mbox-file "~/Gnus/News/My_Posts" nnmbox-get-new-mail f)))

Sorry. My fault, should be:
(setq gnus-message-archive-method  '(nnmbox "MyPosts"  (nnmbox-mbox-file "~/Gnus/News/My_Posts") (nnmbox-get-new-mail nil)))

And now it works.
-- 
KJ
Teamwork is essential -- it allows you to blame someone else.

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* Re: Archiving posts
  2009-03-07 15:36 ` Kamil Jońca
@ 2009-03-07 17:07   ` Andrzej Adam Filip
  2009-03-17 12:09     ` GNUS and imap [was: Re: Archiving posts] Kamil Jońca
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2009-03-07 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:

> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
>
>> I want to archive my posts to Unix mbox file, so I put into my .gnus.el
>> something like this:
>>
>> ====
>> (setq gnus-message-archive-method  '(nnmbox "MyPosts"  (nnmbox-mbox-file "~/Gnus/News/My_Posts" nnmbox-get-new-mail f)))
>
> Sorry. My fault, should be:
> (setq gnus-message-archive-method  '(nnmbox "MyPosts"  (nnmbox-mbox-file "~/Gnus/News/My_Posts") (nnmbox-get-new-mail nil)))
>
> And now it works.

BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
e.g. maildir based IMAP provided by dovecot.

Emacs/Gnus can use it to access maildir *WITHOUT* any "server wide server".
[ I have decided to use IMAP to be able to use a few MUAs in parallel ]

-- 
[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@onet.eu : anfi@xl.wp.pl
Once a word has been allowed to escape, it cannot be recalled.
  -- Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace)

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* GNUS and imap [was: Re: Archiving posts]
  2009-03-07 17:07   ` Archiving posts Andrzej Adam Filip
@ 2009-03-17 12:09     ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-17 12:29       ` GNUS and imap Andrzej Adam Filip
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Jońca @ 2009-03-17 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:

> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>
>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
>>
>>> I want to archive my posts to Unix mbox file, so I put into my .gnus.el
>>> something like this:
>>>
>>> ====
>>> (setq gnus-message-archive-method  '(nnmbox "MyPosts"  (nnmbox-mbox-file "~/Gnus/News/My_Posts" nnmbox-get-new-mail f)))
>>
>> Sorry. My fault, should be:
>> (setq gnus-message-archive-method  '(nnmbox "MyPosts"  (nnmbox-mbox-file "~/Gnus/News/My_Posts") (nnmbox-get-new-mail nil)))
>>
>> And now it works.
>
> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?

Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
INBOX)

KJ


-- 
KJ
Linux: The OS people choose without $ 200,000,000 of persuasion.
        -- Mike Coleman

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 12:09     ` GNUS and imap [was: Re: Archiving posts] Kamil Jońca
@ 2009-03-17 12:29       ` Andrzej Adam Filip
  2009-03-17 12:44         ` Kamil Jońca
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2009-03-17 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:

> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>> [...]
>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>
> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
> INBOX)

<file src="~/bin/imap">
#!/bin/bash
export USER=kamil
export MAIL=maildir:~/Maildir
exec /usr/lib/dovecot/imap
</file>

<file src="~/.emacs">
'(gnus-secondary-select-methods 
  (quote (
   (nnimap "" 
    (nnimap-stream shell) 
    (imap-shell-program "/home/kamil/bin/imap")))))
</file>

To create imap folder seen by gnus as "nnimap:Sent" create maildir
folder ~/Maildir/.Sent ["/home/kamil/Maildir/.Sent/" in procmail recipes]

P.S.
I use more slightly complicated solution with my "personal" 
(per my OS account only) dovecot configuration files.

-- 
[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@onet.eu : anfi@xl.wp.pl
[Sir Stafford Cripps] has all the virtues I dislike and none of the
vices I admire.
  -- Winston Churchill

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 12:29       ` GNUS and imap Andrzej Adam Filip
@ 2009-03-17 12:44         ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` Andreas Most
                             ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Jońca @ 2009-03-17 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:

> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>> [...]
>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>
>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>> INBOX)
>
> <file src="~/bin/imap">

[...snip...]
I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(

KJ


-- 
KJ
Zuzanka najwyraźniej pełni obowiązki Albina Siwaka w tej ekipie...
(C) Slawek Kotynski w dyskusj nt. pl.whatewer.SETI@home...

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 12:44         ` Kamil Jońca
@ 2009-03-17 13:11           ` Andreas Most
  2009-03-17 13:48             ` Richard Riley
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` GNUS and imap Richard Riley
  2009-03-17 15:01           ` GNUS and imap Andrzej Adam Filip
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Most @ 2009-03-17 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:

> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>
>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>>
>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>>> INBOX)
>>
>> <file src="~/bin/imap">
>
> [...snip...]
> I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
> visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
> them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(

I found the following in some forum thread (but can't remember where):
Add a function to your .gnus.el

(defun gnus-browse-imaps-server (server)
        "Browse a mail server in Gnus via IMAP-SSL."
        (interactive "sServer name: ")
        (gnus-group-browse-foreign-server
          (list 'nnimap server
             (list 'nnimap-address server)
             '(nnimap-stream ssl)
             '(nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX" "mail/*" "Mail/*" "INBOX.*"))
             '(nnimap-expunge-on-close ask))))

I have actually changed the list pattern to ("*" "*/*") which works for
Google Mail. After calling M-x gnus-browse-imaps-server you will be
asked for the server. You will then get a list of folders to which you
can subscribe.

Andreas.

--
AndreasDotMostAtGmailDotCom

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 12:44         ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` Andreas Most
@ 2009-03-17 13:11           ` Richard Riley
  2009-03-17 15:17             ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-21 13:31             ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-17 15:01           ` GNUS and imap Andrzej Adam Filip
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2009-03-17 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:

> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>
>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>>
>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>>> INBOX)
>>
>> <file src="~/bin/imap">
>
> [...snip...]
> I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
> visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
> them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(
>
> KJ

What IMAP server? Works fine here with dovecot.

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` Andreas Most
@ 2009-03-17 13:48             ` Richard Riley
  2009-03-17 15:24               ` Andreas Most
                                 ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2009-03-17 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Andreas Most <Andreas.Most@nospam.invalid> writes:

> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>
>>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>>>> INBOX)
>>>
>>> <file src="~/bin/imap">
>>
>> [...snip...]
>> I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
>> visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
>> them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(
>
> I found the following in some forum thread (but can't remember where):
> Add a function to your .gnus.el
>
> (defun gnus-browse-imaps-server (server)
>         "Browse a mail server in Gnus via IMAP-SSL."
>         (interactive "sServer name: ")
>         (gnus-group-browse-foreign-server
>           (list 'nnimap server
>              (list 'nnimap-address server)
>              '(nnimap-stream ssl)
>              '(nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX" "mail/*" "Mail/*" "INBOX.*"))
>              '(nnimap-expunge-on-close ask))))
>
> I have actually changed the list pattern to ("*" "*/*") which works for
> Google Mail. After calling M-x gnus-browse-imaps-server you will be
> asked for the server. You will then get a list of folders to which you
> can subscribe.
>
> Andreas.
>
> --
> AndreasDotMostAtGmailDotCom

Is this server specific? I have only

       gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mymail"
				   (nnimap-stream ssl)
				   (nnimap-address "imap.myserver.net")
				   (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
				   (nnir-search-engine imap))

And it works fine (emacs 23).

regards

r.

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 12:44         ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` Andreas Most
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` GNUS and imap Richard Riley
@ 2009-03-17 15:01           ` Andrzej Adam Filip
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2009-03-17 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:

> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>
>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>>
>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>>> INBOX)
>>
>> <file src="~/bin/imap">
>
> [...snip...]
> I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
> visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
> them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(

Do you mean "Server Buffer" selectable from (*Groups*) buffer by
pressing ^ ? [ Or selecting menu "Gnus/Enter Server Buffer" ]


-- 
[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@onet.eu : anfi@xl.wp.pl
A star captain's most solemn oath is that he will give his life, even
his entire crew, rather than violate the Prime Directive.
  -- Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` GNUS and imap Richard Riley
@ 2009-03-17 15:17             ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-21 13:31             ` Kamil Jońca
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Jońca @ 2009-03-17 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>
>>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>>>> INBOX)
>>>
>>> <file src="~/bin/imap">
>>
>> [...snip...]
>> I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
>> visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
>> them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(
>>
>> KJ
>
> What IMAP server? Works fine here with dovecot.

Dovecot. 
1. I can add groups maunally with  G m in *Group buffer*
2. I can't list folders others than INBOX  (witn e.g. browse server) and
for example Thunderbird can.
3. my dovecot configuration (mostly default except mail_location)
====================
protocols = imap imaps
listen = localhost
log_path =  /var/log/dovecot
log_timestamp = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S "
login_processes_count = 1
mail_location = maildir:~/Mail:LAYOUT=FS:INBOX=~/Mail:INDEX=~/.mail/dovecot
mail_privileged_group = mail
mail_debug = yes
mail_log_prefix = "%Us(%u): "
protocol imap {
}
  
protocol pop3 {
  pop3_uidl_format = %08Xu%08Xv
}
protocol managesieve {
  sieve=~/.dovecot.sieve
  sieve_storage=~/sieve
}
auth default {
  mechanisms = plain
  passdb pam {
  }
  userdb passwd {
  }
  user = root
}
dict {
}
plugin {
}
=====================

-- 
KJ
The world is coming to an end.  Please log off.

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 13:48             ` Richard Riley
@ 2009-03-17 15:24               ` Andreas Most
  2009-03-18 15:18               ` David Abrahams
       [not found]               ` <mailman.3505.1237389529.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Most @ 2009-03-17 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

> Andreas Most <Andreas.Most@nospam.invalid> writes:
>
>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
>>
>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>
>>>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>>>>> INBOX)
>>>>
>>>> <file src="~/bin/imap">
>>>
>>> [...snip...]
>>> I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
>>> visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
>>> them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(
>>
>> I found the following in some forum thread (but can't remember where):
>> Add a function to your .gnus.el
>>
>> (defun gnus-browse-imaps-server (server)
>>         "Browse a mail server in Gnus via IMAP-SSL."
>>         (interactive "sServer name: ")
>>         (gnus-group-browse-foreign-server
>>           (list 'nnimap server
>>              (list 'nnimap-address server)
>>              '(nnimap-stream ssl)
>>              '(nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX" "mail/*" "Mail/*" "INBOX.*"))
>>              '(nnimap-expunge-on-close ask))))
>>
>> I have actually changed the list pattern to ("*" "*/*") which works for
>> Google Mail. After calling M-x gnus-browse-imaps-server you will be
>> asked for the server. You will then get a list of folders to which you
>> can subscribe.
>>
>> Andreas.
>>
>> --
>> AndreasDotMostAtGmailDotCom
>
> Is this server specific? I have only
>
>        gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mymail"
> 				   (nnimap-stream ssl)
> 				   (nnimap-address "imap.myserver.net")
> 				   (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
> 				   (nnir-search-engine imap))
>
> And it works fine (emacs 23).

I have started with Gnus only recently, so I am not yet familiar with
all the features. As of my understanding it is only possible to browse
the server specified in the gnus-select-method but not in the
gnus-secondary-select-methods. Moreover, with the above method it is
possible to add folders from different imap services for the poor people
(like me) who have several email accounts.

Andreas.

--
AndreasDotMostAtGmailDotCom

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 13:48             ` Richard Riley
  2009-03-17 15:24               ` Andreas Most
@ 2009-03-18 15:18               ` David Abrahams
       [not found]               ` <mailman.3505.1237389529.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: David Abrahams @ 2009-03-18 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english


on Tue Mar 17 2009, Richard Riley <rileyrgdev-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

> Is this server specific? I have only
>
>        gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mymail"
> 				   (nnimap-stream ssl)
> 				   (nnimap-address "imap.myserver.net")
> 				   (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
> 				   (nnir-search-engine imap))

I've been doing something like that for years, and I use dovecot, and it
works.  I wonder what's tripping up the OP.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

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* Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]
       [not found]               ` <mailman.3505.1237389529.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
@ 2009-03-18 15:28                 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
  2009-03-18 16:15                   ` David Abrahams
       [not found]                   ` <mailman.3507.1237392975.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2009-03-18 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> wrote:

> on Tue Mar 17 2009, Richard Riley <rileyrgdev-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this server specific? I have only
>>
>>        gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mymail"
>> 				   (nnimap-stream ssl)
>> 				   (nnimap-address "imap.myserver.net")
>> 				   (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
>> 				   (nnir-search-engine imap))
>
> I've been doing something like that for years, and I use dovecot, and it
> works.  I wonder what's tripping up the OP.

IMHO Emacs/Gnus is full of "simple *after*" things/traps especially for
"Learn It Yourself" path :-)

-- 
[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@onet.eu : anfi@xl.wp.pl
You are absolute plate-glass. I see to the very back of your mind.
  -- Sherlock Holmes

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* Re: Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]
  2009-03-18 15:28                 ` Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap] Andrzej Adam Filip
@ 2009-03-18 16:15                   ` David Abrahams
       [not found]                   ` <mailman.3507.1237392975.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: David Abrahams @ 2009-03-18 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english


on Wed Mar 18 2009, Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi-AT-onet.eu> wrote:

> David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> wrote:
>
>> on Tue Mar 17 2009, Richard Riley <rileyrgdev-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is this server specific? I have only
>>>
>>>        gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mymail"
>>> 				   (nnimap-stream ssl)
>>> 				   (nnimap-address "imap.myserver.net")
>>> 				   (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
>>> 				   (nnir-search-engine imap))
>>
>> I've been doing something like that for years, and I use dovecot, and it
>> works.  I wonder what's tripping up the OP.
>
> IMHO Emacs/Gnus is full of "simple *after*" things/traps especially for
> "Learn It Yourself" path :-)

100% Agreed.  The docs don't paint a clear architectural picture of the
system, and nnimap is prone to confusing behavior, especially when used
with the agent, if you have other mail clients.  Still, it's better than
anything else I can find.  I just wish I really understood it.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

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* Re: Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]
       [not found]                   ` <mailman.3507.1237392975.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
@ 2009-03-19  2:37                     ` poppyer
  2009-03-19  4:55                       ` Leo
       [not found]                       ` <mailman.3538.1237438542.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: poppyer @ 2009-03-19  2:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english


David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:

: on Wed Mar 18 2009, Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi-AT-onet.eu> wrote:
:
:> David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> wrote:
:>
:>> on Tue Mar 17 2009, Richard Riley <rileyrgdev-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
:>>
:>>> Is this server specific? I have only
:>>>
:>>>        gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mymail"
:>>> 				   (nnimap-stream ssl)
:>>> 				   (nnimap-address "imap.myserver.net")
:>>> 				   (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
:>>> 				   (nnir-search-engine imap))
:>>
:>> I've been doing something like that for years, and I use dovecot, and it
:>> works.  I wonder what's tripping up the OP.
:>
:> IMHO Emacs/Gnus is full of "simple *after*" things/traps especially for
:> "Learn It Yourself" path :-)
:
: 100% Agreed.  The docs don't paint a clear architectural picture of the
: system, and nnimap is prone to confusing behavior, especially when used
: with the agent, if you have other mail clients.  Still, it's better than
: anything else I can find.  I just wish I really understood it.

The only thing I am missing in nnimap (of gnus) is that I can not
preview the email by partial downloading. A typical scenario is when I
got a email with 2M attachments, I can only read the few lines of text
after I download all the 2M attachments, which is very very slow...

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* Re: Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]
  2009-03-19  2:37                     ` poppyer
@ 2009-03-19  4:55                       ` Leo
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From: Leo @ 2009-03-19  4:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

On 2009-03-19 02:37 +0000, poppyer wrote:
> The only thing I am missing in nnimap (of gnus) is that I can not
> preview the email by partial downloading. A typical scenario is when I
> got a email with 2M attachments, I can only read the few lines of text
> after I download all the 2M attachments, which is very very slow...

This seems very interesting. Do you know about any email clients that
provide imap preview?

-- 
.:  Leo  :.  [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ]  .: I use Emacs :.

               www.git-scm.com
    git - the one true version control system

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* Re: Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]
       [not found]                       ` <mailman.3538.1237438542.31690.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
@ 2009-03-19  5:48                         ` poppyer
  2009-03-19 13:45                           ` Leo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: poppyer @ 2009-03-19  5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english


Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:

: On 2009-03-19 02:37 +0000, poppyer wrote:
:> The only thing I am missing in nnimap (of gnus) is that I can not
:> preview the email by partial downloading. A typical scenario is when I
:> got a email with 2M attachments, I can only read the few lines of text
:> after I download all the 2M attachments, which is very very slow...
:
: This seems very interesting. Do you know about any email clients that
: provide imap preview?

I am not sure about other email clients (such as Thunderbird), need to
be tried. But partial downloading is supported by the FETCH command in
IMAP RFC.

This thread (two years ago) gives some clues:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62566/focus=62654

I am not sure if there is any following works.

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* Re: Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]
  2009-03-19  5:48                         ` poppyer
@ 2009-03-19 13:45                           ` Leo
  2009-03-20 20:04                             ` Call for nnimap hackers [was: Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]] David Abrahams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Leo @ 2009-03-19 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

On 2009-03-19 05:48 +0000, poppyer wrote:
> Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
>
> : On 2009-03-19 02:37 +0000, poppyer wrote:
> :> The only thing I am missing in nnimap (of gnus) is that I can not
> :> preview the email by partial downloading. A typical scenario is when I
> :> got a email with 2M attachments, I can only read the few lines of text
> :> after I download all the 2M attachments, which is very very slow...
> :
> : This seems very interesting. Do you know about any email clients that
> : provide imap preview?
>
> I am not sure about other email clients (such as Thunderbird), need to
> be tried. But partial downloading is supported by the FETCH command in
> IMAP RFC.
>
> This thread (two years ago) gives some clues:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62566/focus=62654

Thank you for answering.

It will be very useful if Gnus can use this feature whenever an email is
greater than certain size.

> I am not sure if there is any following works.

-- 
.:  Leo  :.  [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ]  .: I use Emacs :.

               www.git-scm.com
    git - the one true version control system

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* Call for nnimap hackers [was: Emacs/Gnus: About simple after things :-) [was: GNUS and imap]]
  2009-03-19 13:45                           ` Leo
@ 2009-03-20 20:04                             ` David Abrahams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: David Abrahams @ 2009-03-20 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english


on Thu Mar 19 2009, Leo <sdl.web-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2009-03-19 05:48 +0000, poppyer wrote:
>> Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> : On 2009-03-19 02:37 +0000, poppyer wrote:
>> :> The only thing I am missing in nnimap (of gnus) is that I can not
>> :> preview the email by partial downloading. A typical scenario is when I
>> :> got a email with 2M attachments, I can only read the few lines of text
>> :> after I download all the 2M attachments, which is very very slow...
>> :
>> : This seems very interesting. Do you know about any email clients that
>> : provide imap preview?
>>
>> I am not sure about other email clients (such as Thunderbird), need to
>> be tried. But partial downloading is supported by the FETCH command in
>> IMAP RFC.
>>
>> This thread (two years ago) gives some clues:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62566/focus=62654
>
> Thank you for answering.
>
> It will be very useful if Gnus can use this feature whenever an email is
> greater than certain size.

I would be interested in starting a group of nnimap hackers who are
interested in learning and improve that backend.  Takers?

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

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* Re: GNUS and imap
  2009-03-17 13:11           ` GNUS and imap Richard Riley
  2009-03-17 15:17             ` Kamil Jońca
@ 2009-03-21 13:31             ` Kamil Jońca
  2009-03-21 14:57               ` GNUS and imap [gnus-message-archive-group] Andrzej Adam Filip
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Jońca @ 2009-03-21 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>
>>> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> BTW Have you considered using IMAP?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I'm trying. But I cant make gnus to see my folders other than
>>>> INBOX)
>>>
>>> <file src="~/bin/imap">
>>
>> [...snip...]
>> I think that is something wrong rather with gnus, because folders are
>> visible with thunderbird and Mutt, and only gnus can't see
>> them. (Browse server can't see them also) :(
>>
>> KJ
>
> What IMAP server? Works fine here with dovecot.
Sorry, it was stupid typo with setting
gnus-secondary-select-methods in my gnus.el. Now wors fine, almost.
The only thing, I can't set is archive based on from header, 
gnus-message-archive-group seems to be evaluated *before* "From" header
is set from group posting-style.

KJ

-- 
można nie mieć nawet żadnego sensownego argumentu, a dzięki odpowiedniej
gestykulacji stworzyć poczucie wiarygodności.
Puls Biznesu

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* Re: GNUS and imap [gnus-message-archive-group]
  2009-03-21 13:31             ` Kamil Jońca
@ 2009-03-21 14:57               ` Andrzej Adam Filip
  2009-03-21 20:30                 ` Kamil Jońca
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread
From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2009-03-21 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:

> [...] Now wors fine, almost.
> The only thing, I can't set is archive based on from header, 
> gnus-message-archive-group seems to be evaluated *before* "From" header
> is set from group posting-style.

You can copy sender "auto-selection rules" to gnus-message-archive-group
to select "archive folder".
e.g. I use three separate "sent folders": one for usenet, second for
mailing list, and third for "all other" (email).

'(gnus-message-archive-group (quote (
   ("^[^:]+$" "nnimap:Posted") 
   ("^nnimap:Lists\\." "nnimap:Posted-List") 
   (".*" "nnimap:Sent"))))

Hope That Helps.

-- 
[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@onet.eu : anfi@xl.wp.pl
The most disagreeable thing that your worst enemy says to your face does
not approach what your best friends say behind your back.
  -- Alfred De Musset

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* Re: GNUS and imap [gnus-message-archive-group]
  2009-03-21 14:57               ` GNUS and imap [gnus-message-archive-group] Andrzej Adam Filip
@ 2009-03-21 20:30                 ` Kamil Jońca
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Jońca @ 2009-03-21 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:

> kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) wrote:
>
>> [...] Now wors fine, almost.
>> The only thing, I can't set is archive based on from header, 
>> gnus-message-archive-group seems to be evaluated *before* "From" header
>> is set from group posting-style.
>
> You can copy sender "auto-selection rules" to gnus-message-archive-group
> to select "archive folder".
> e.g. I use three separate "sent folders": one for usenet, second for
> mailing list, and third for "all other" (email).
>
> '(gnus-message-archive-group (quote (
>    ("^[^:]+$" "nnimap:Posted") 
>    ("^nnimap:Lists\\." "nnimap:Posted-List") 
>    (".*" "nnimap:Sent"))))

I can separate messages according to mail/usenet status, but I can't by
from :(
I have adapted script found at http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusMSMTP
(cg-feed-msmtp) with no success.

KJ

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