From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/7588 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenneth Jacker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Changes After Ubuntu Upgrade Date: 25 Jun 2006 19:02:05 -0400 Organization: Appalachian State University Message-ID: <87lkrkkff6.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> References: <874pyfvpj8.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> Reply-To: khj@cs.appstate.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151278814 17438 80.91.229.2 (25 Jun 2006 23:40:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 26 01:40:11 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FueD4-0003eG-SY for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:40:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FueD4-0003Ru-Ay for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:40:10 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!elk.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 116 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: be.cs.appstate.edu Original-X-Trace: lester.appstate.edu 1151276551 2649 152.10.10.41 (25 Jun 2006 23:02:31 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@lester.appstate.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:02:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:77773 Original-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:7588 Archived-At: [ Warning: long posting! -khj] rs> Probably the latter is not used because you have a separate Gnus rs> package installed, cf. `M-x list-load-path-shadows RET'. OK, I had time to look into this more ... It is a "load path" issue. Here is the value of my default 'load-path' (sorry for the length!): ("/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/oneliner-el" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/html-helper-mode" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/html-helper-mode" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/gnuserv" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/dictionaries-common" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/chess" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/chess/" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/bbdb" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/auctex/images" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/auctex" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/x-face-el" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/remember-el" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/planner-el" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/debian-el" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/w3m" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/w3m/shimbun" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/mailcrypt/" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/mailcrypt/" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/gnus-bonus-el" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/flim" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/emacs-wiki" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/emacs-goodies-el" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/dictionaries-common" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/auctex/" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/mule-ucs" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/apel" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/gnuplot-mode" "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/yacas" "/etc/emacs21" "/etc/emacs" "/usr/local/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp" "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/apel" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/auctex" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/bbdb" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/chess" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/debian-el" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/dictionaries-common" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/emacs-goodies-el" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/emacs-wiki" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/flim" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/gnuplot-mode" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/gnus" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/gnus-bonus-el" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/gnuserv" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/html-helper-mode" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/mailcrypt" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/mule-ucs" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/oneliner-el" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/planner-el" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/w3m" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/x-face-el" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/yacas" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp/w3m/shimbun" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/leim" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/toolbar" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/textmodes" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/progmodes" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/play" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/obsolete" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/net" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/mail" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/language" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/international" ==> "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/gnus" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/eshell" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/emulation" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/emacs-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/calendar") Once I added "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/gnus" to the front, I was able to use the 5.9.0 version of 'gnus'. (Note a copy of that path *is* in the fifth-to-the-last entry above). Some questions: o Where is 'load-path' initialized? o Should the "/usr/share/emacs21/*" entries precede the "/usr/share/emacs/21.4/*" ones? o Both "/etc/emacs" and "/etc/emacs21" exist ... is that correct? o Might the problem have something to do with the contents of /etc/{emacs,emacs21}/* ? o Am I using older versions of *other* things, too (e.g., 'eshell')? Finally, here are all relevant installed Dapper packages: emacs-goodies-el/dapper uptodate 26.4-1 emacs21/dapper uptodate 21.4a-3ubuntu2 emacs21-bin-common/dapper uptodate 21.4a-3ubuntu2 emacs21-common/dapper uptodate 21.4a-3ubuntu2 emacs21-el/dapper uptodate 21.4a-3ubuntu2 emacsen-common/dapper uptodate 1.4.17 Thanks for the help! -Kenneth