From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17906 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gijs Hillenius Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus INBOX housekeeping, kept (copies of) mail lying around Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 08:28:46 +0100 Organization: Using Emacs' Org Mode Message-ID: <87mvshdf2o.fsf@hillenius.net> References: <87r3hw70ee.fsf@hillenius.net> <878u446w17.fsf@hillenius.net> <874mes6uou.fsf@hillenius.net> <87mvsk5cxu.fsf@hillenius.net> <87egdw5bgj.fsf@hillenius.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452151815 2290 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2016 07:30:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 07:30:15 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 07 08:30:06 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aH51K-0002id-MR for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 08:30:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57378 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aH51J-00027k-Rq for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 02:30:05 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux Sid X-Homepage: http://www.hillenius.net/ X-GPG-Fingerprint: 340F F9A4 8F6C 18FD D032 0C33 ABA1 CB30 E997 A3AF Cancel-Lock: sha1:DdNwwb2rqktJ/JGEQ4ZEHak781s= Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.76.204.189 Original-X-Trace: 1452151726 news.xs4all.nl 23834 himaan/144.76.204.189:47582 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:89036 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17906 Archived-At: On 5 Jan 2016, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: [...] Earlier I reported: >>>>>>>> Doing some Gnus imap folders housekeeping this morning, I found >>>>>>>> that 8000 messages (called 131940. 131941. etcetera) /hiding/ >>>>>>>> in the imap's INBOX. It looks like these are all emails that >>>>>>>> I've 'deleted' in Gnus, so they don't show. But for some reason >>>>>>>> they're not actually deleted. [...] Which I was told could have something to do with >>>>> (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") >>>>> (nnimap-split-methods nnmail-split-fancy) >>>>> (nnimap-unsplittable-articles >>>>> '(%Deleted)) [...] >>>> This will be the problem. The normal value of that var is (%Deleted >>>> %Seen). Removing %Seen means that all messages in your Inbox will >>>> continue being split every time you check for new mail, even though >>>> you've already seen them, and they're already in the Inbox. >>>> >>>> Essentially that means that all messages are copied from the Inbox >>>> back into the Inbox each time you check mail. >>>> >>>> I pushed a change to nnimap.el some time ago that prevents the >>>> splitting process from splitting mail into the group it's already >>>> in, but you probably don't have that change in your version of >>>> Gnus. And now I wonder: If my Gnus (5.13, part of Debian's Emacs) copies messages back into the INBOX, does fancy-split set the delete/expunge IMAP flag to these? Because, if it does not flag them for deletion, would that perhaps explain why the nightly Cyrus pruning does not do anything? Cyrus is set to remove from disk all messages that have been flagged for deletion for 3 days.