From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17899 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gijs Hillenius Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus INBOX housekeeping, kept (copies of) mail lying around Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 15:16:29 +0100 Organization: Using Emacs' Org Mode Message-ID: <87mvsk5cxu.fsf@hillenius.net> References: <87r3hw70ee.fsf@hillenius.net> <878u446w17.fsf@hillenius.net> <874mes6uou.fsf@hillenius.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452003644 31878 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2016 14:20:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 14:20:44 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 15:20:44 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aGSTa-00040w-Sh for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 15:20:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49943 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGSTa-0008A3-6u for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 09:20:42 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux Sid X-Homepage: http://www.hillenius.net/ X-GPG-Fingerprint: 340F F9A4 8F6C 18FD D032 0C33 ABA1 CB30 E997 A3AF User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tq9XZEil1JDRlupJgtuzWyir7Ls= Original-Lines: 76 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.76.204.189 Original-X-Trace: 1452003389 news.xs4all.nl 23815 himaan/144.76.204.189:60610 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:89029 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17899 Archived-At: On 5 Jan 2016, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Gijs Hillenius writes: > >> On 5 Jan 2016, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >>> Gijs Hillenius writes: >>> >>>> On 5 Jan 2016, Gijs Hillenius wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Doing some Gnus imap folders housekeeping this morning, I found >>>>> that 8000 messages (called 131940. 131941. etcetera) /hiding/ in >>>>> the imap's INBOX. It looks like these are all emails that I've >>>>> 'deleted' in Gnus, so they don't show. But for some reason they're >>>>> not actually deleted. >>>>> >>>>> Is this a setting I messed up? I recall there used to be such a >>>>> feature, but I don't remember what that was called. I've been >>>>> searching the manual for this, so far without the result I hoped >>>>> to find. >>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate a few hints. >>>> >>>> encouraged by the two replies... >>>> >>>> I just sent myself two emails (from a throw-away gmail account), >>>> and notice that these messages end up on the system twice. >>>> >>>> My nnimap-split-fancy places them in the correct nnimap mail group, >>>> but a "copy" (or perhaps the original) stays in the INBOX, hidden. >>>> >>>> Does that ring a bell, with anyone? >>> >>> Is it a Gmail address? >>> >>> Not that that immediately solves the problem, but it would be useful >>> information. Also, what's your Gnus version? >> >> The test email came from gmail. My server is for the vanity domain >> I'm currently posting with >> >> Gnus v5.13, in GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (Debian) >> >> a snippet from my server settings: >> >> (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") >> (nnimap-split-methods nnmail-split-fancy) >> (nnimap-unsplittable-articles >> '(%Deleted)) >> >> I wonder about that ^^^ last line, I don't actually recognise it. > > This will be the problem. The normal value of that var is (%Deleted > %Seen). Removing %Seen means that all messages in your Inbox will > continue being split every time you check for new mail, even though > you've already seen them, and they're already in the Inbox. > > Essentially that means that all messages are copied from the Inbox > back into the Inbox each time you check mail. > > I pushed a change to nnimap.el some time ago that prevents the > splitting process from splitting mail into the group it's already in, > but you probably don't have that change in your version of Gnus. > > In the meantime you can fix the problem by setting > `nnimap-unsplittable-articles' back to '(%Deleted %Seen). If you leave > unread messages in your Inbox for a while, you'll still have a bit of > the same problem. But the main issue will be fixed. I've added %Seen. Restarted Gnus. Should I expect new messages to now be "removed" from INBOX ? I'm asking because a first test from the same throw away address is again in the INBOX (but invisible to gnus) and in the fancy split folder. Should these messages not be marked expunge or something?