From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16961 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: How to use Gnus to read newsgroup like gnu.emacs.gnus? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 02:31:22 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87mwca9mat.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <4e936b93-31fe-45f0-82c9-fa1cdcf1344d@googlegroups.com> <86vbqzm303.fsf@example.com> <7z1ttn0znd.fsf@example.com> <87sim2a9hf.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405470913 20502 80.91.229.3 (16 Jul 2014 00:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 00:35:13 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 16 02:35:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X7DBc-0006mC-Ea for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 02:35:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37144 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X7DBb-0007BH-KF for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:35:07 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 58 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:pEkOyJjqa1OfY0Er2wKyEFACurs= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:88090 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16961 Archived-At: Sharon Kimble writes: > (add-to-list > 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org") > (nntp "nntp.aioe.org") '(nntp "news.gnus.org")) > > So how can I add it then please? What? :) Why are you asking me that? What I can see `add-to-list' doesn't work like that, for an arbitrary number of elements. Like: (+ 1 2 3) - that works. But: (setq some-list '((1 2))) ; ((1 2)), but... (add-to-list 'some-list '(3 4) '(5 6)) ; ... is ((1 2) (3 4)), ; not ((1 2) (3 4) (5 6)) But OK: I never use those `add-to-list', `add-hook', etc. - I just `setq' once, plain and simple and much easier to not get confused, as you only set things once. If you wish to be careful, check the variable's value first. If it is empty (as is often the case), just set it to whatever you want safe and sound. If it isn't empty, and you deem the contents to be of value, just include it when you set it yourself. So for me it looks like this: (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "Aioe.org")) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")) ) The first one is for nntp/news/posts/Usenet, the second is for nnml/mails. > The other two links work, so why doesn'tthe last one? > If I use "news.gnus.org" as the url it takes me to a > index page with a graphic on it of various sites in a > rather spiffing looking graphic! So I'm puzzled. You get a new Gnus with a new Emacs. Of course, you can get the latest source and compile it - but probably it is better to use your OS's (distro's) package manager to upgrade Emacs. The improvements are subtle most of the time, say you have Emacs 24 now, when 25 gets out, upgrade, something like that is sensible and enough for almost all users, I'd say. > My idea was that I would be able to get advance > information when a new gnus and emacs are released, > but maybe I could get that information elsewhere? What about the Emacs and Gnus homepages? -- underground experts united