From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/12247 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F8gren?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: More gnewb questions Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:59:50 +0200 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87my8s836x.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> References: <87my8skqme.fsf@bb.nothome.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243867286 29044 80.91.229.12 (1 Jun 2009 14:41:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 01 16:41:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MB8hX-0000Kt-Bp for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:41:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60378 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MB8hW-0005uP-OY for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:41:22 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.skynet.be!nuzba.szn.dk!news.koldfront.dk!pnx.dk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 75 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: topper.koldfront.dk Original-X-Trace: virgil.koldfront.dk 1243864790 15071 192.168.1.160 (1 Jun 2009 13:59:50 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@koldfront.dk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:59:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97, Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:12247 Archived-At: On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:52:57 -0600, notbob@bb.nothome.com wrote: > Reading nntp: 3500K (<--counting) > Reading active file from eu.Usenet-News.net via nntp... (waiting) Maybe you want to change the value of the variable gnus-read-active-file: ,----[ C-h v gnus-read-active-file RET ] | `gnus-read-active-file' is a variable declared in Lisp. | -- loaded from "gnus-start" | | Value: nil | | Documentation: | *Non-nil means that Gnus will read the entire active file at startup. | If this variable is nil, Gnus will only know about the groups in your | `.newsrc' file. | | If this variable is `some', Gnus will try to only read the relevant | parts of the active file from the server. Not all servers support | this, and it might be quite slow with other servers, but this should | generally be faster than both the t and nil value. | | If you set this variable to nil or `some', you probably still want to | be told about new newsgroups that arrive. To do that, set | `gnus-check-new-newsgroups' to `ask-server'. This may not work | properly with all servers. `---- As you can see above, I have configured mine to nil (in .gnus, like this: ; I find new groups myself: (setq gnus-read-active-file nil) ) > ......then the groups come up and are listed. WTF!? slrn does it in > 1/2 sec. I guess Gnus works differently than slrn, then. > I've tried reading the ~/newsrc (.el, .eld?) and can find no such > file. I've got: $ ls .newsrc* .newsrc .newsrc.eld $ > All I find is ~/.news-dribble, which isn't even mentioned in the emacs > or gnus manuals. Perhaps that is because that file is an internal one? > One reason (other than the fact I despise vi!) I want to get better at > emacs instead of remaining with jed is, I can copy and paste into > emacs with better results. With jed, specially with code, if I copy > and paste into jed, the indentations (and sometimes no indentations) > will always further indent to a stairstep, which has to be hand edited > out. This is maddening and unacceptable. I don't have this problem > with emacs. That makes it all worth the effort. Do note though, that you can use Emacs with slrn just as easily as you can jed. Best regards, Adam -- "Yeah, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go ahead and give Adam Sjøgren this a 9.7 on the "whatever" scale." asjo@koldfront.dk