From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/8072 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: neumann@lostwebsite.net (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois-Denis?= Gonthier) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Gnus redownloading headers on entry. Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:31:58 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <87mz81gts1.fsf@lostwebsite.net> References: <87vemphbyh.fsf@lostwebsite.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1160687985 12489 80.91.229.2 (12 Oct 2006 21:19:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 12 23:19:43 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY7NS-0007FI-1n for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:42:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY7NR-0003xI-JZ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:42:01 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!sn-xt-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2AoERleH7v4yH8EdnN3nDOA9M0g= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 37 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:78258 Original-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:8072 Archived-At: >>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib writes: Reiner> On Thu, Oct 12 2006, François-Denis Gonthier wrote: Reiner> Yes, `some' leads to "XOVER 1-HIGH" (HIGH = highest Reiner> article number in the group). I'm not sure if it could be Reiner> avoided. This is what I've noticed later in the day. >> I had it set to t, but I still think setting it to some would >> not mean he'd download all messages. Reiner> Try setting it to a number. This should lead to "XOVER Reiner> 1-N" (N = lowest unread article number minus Reiner> gnus-fetch-old-headers), see Reiner> `nntp-retrieve-headers-with-xover' for details. ... and this is what I concluded too. I'm a bit sad this doesn't work as well as I would like but I can still use A T to see more of the thread. Maybe it's juste me still view things as I view them with KMail. Reiner> You don't need Ethereal, simply set Reiner> `nntp-retrieve-headers-with-xover' to t and look into the Reiner> *nntp-log*" buffer. I knew such a thing existed, but I know Ethereal more than I Gnus Reiner> For me, the slow part is not XOVER, but the following HEAD Reiner> commands which are cause by my scoring rules. These rules Reiner> partly score on non-XOVER headers, so Gnus send HEAD for Reiner> each article. If this is the problem, it should disappear Reiner> if `gnus-use-scoring' is nil [1]. My scoring rules are not yet complicated enough to slow things down. I'll consider the patch in some months ;)