From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/7421 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 18:16:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87mzd22khi.fsf@baldur.nicundtas.de> References: <1e5fk3-853.ln1@news.tdc.dk> <867j4a4hm9.fsf@IAPonomarenko.isd.dp.ua> <3jtgk3-gv3.ln1@news.tdc.dk> <87k68a2jxv.fsf@ulm.malte.spiess> <9sphk3-4f1.ln1@news.tdc.dk> <87hd3djobd.fsf@ulm.malte.spiess> <9f1kk3-262.ln1@news.tdc.dk> <2qrok3-9g4.ln1@news.tdc.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148833022 676 80.91.229.2 (28 May 2006 16:17:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 16:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 28 18:17:00 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FkNwg-0005Yb-7X for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 18:16:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FkNwf-0003JH-JJ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 12:16:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FkNwe-0003J6-2H for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 12:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FkNwd-0003Iu-Nh for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 12:16:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FkNwd-0003Ir-Dz for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 12:16:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FkO20-00062k-Em for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 12:22:20 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FkNwN-0005U0-R3 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 18:16:31 +0200 Original-Received: from dslb-084-063-044-027.pools.arcor-ip.net ([84.63.44.27]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 May 2006 18:16:31 +0200 Original-Received: from heimdall by dslb-084-063-044-027.pools.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 May 2006 18:16:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-Lines: 81 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dslb-084-063-044-027.pools.arcor-ip.net Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEVVVlBlsOJqkqifzOif vtFXdYWo4XLsAAAACXBIWXMAAAsSAAALEgHS3X78AAAACXZwQWcAAAAwAAAAMADO7oxXAAABp0lE QVQ4y8WTzZabMAyFNRT2Fdh7TMIDOPbsY1D2QKP3f5VKJvzkdGbRbqoFB/TdK2EhAL8J+D/Af+vw X4PmVMq/6ZvdUTfvlqOUCfFkCGYDabx1hynEuIGmhefWJoTwWW3gJ1wo5J5eQINTcXMC6hrKMQTv pXwTFDzgmh0tXC5CxNF4ESBeoUgCCIqQSKRRqBrQ3IEQ6juUaIwkBY7ZgXd4ikOB2MaBiMYQSV7B SgoyRgs5KmqfAbHLYJKCeL2vpIQfHjsDhQB5SkgKynwhpBqqBGaC0uFw15TiVVUMUE9QxaQpaU4g KSTRDtpctZCPH0G5ZD7kHJ/wihfQmASgOYGw3etIpMkfIM8Kry+ik5KDaFCerqNB5LQCuun5V4Au EcWQZ6sxjsnte0VbNsSE7rxw+u38itadg30J0Mt2GJ/JGay6Rog3JyANU867bNxBGjTtOnRLwnOp puv5yfPS8/LgX+nY3cdS9FzNC3dtu7TxAH3vWsszc932UzXv4LYwMksdrqee+QC2Xyzz1BfMApl3 wLarZ8t2Vrk9OXLYf/zP579xvDf5DViQeyGEWlLHAAAAJnpUWHRDb21tZW50AAB42nMuSk0sSU1R KM8syVAIyUhVcPf0DQAAUucHI5DLZXAAAAAaelRYdEpQRUctQ29sb3JzcGFjZQAAeNozAgAAMwAz ERZ+YwAAACd6VFh0SlBFRy1TYW1wbGluZy1mYWN0b3JzAAB42jOqMNIxrDAEYQARgwLpZA8bYgAA AABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Qkrgcan4oH6bXneaCMjt66QFgbs= X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:7421 Archived-At: unoder.spam@spam.jay.net (Martin Jørgensen) writes: Hi Martin, >> One of which is that you poste too long lines, right? > > It doesn't annoy me and nobody complained until now. Is it a problem? > Because I assumed that most usenet-clients just wrap long lines so > they don't see any problem at all? The problem is that quoting is harder to do (for inferior newsreaders than Gnus). So it's more or less a common rule to wrap lines statically at 72 columns. > Ok, thanks. Suppose I want to outcomment something, should I then use > ";;" in front of each line? Yes, but the number of semicolon is not important. (It merely affects indentation.) > 1) Currently I use this "aquamacs emacs" since it was shipped with > auctex and previewtex and I don't know how to setup that from a "clean > emacs". So it constantly opens stupid windows that I can't "C-x o" > between.... I have to mouse-click them to select them... Annoying. To switch between "Frames" (thats emacsian for Windows in sense of window manager units) use `C-x 5 o'. BTW: I've heard that Aquamacs is not that good. At least it's a de-emacsified emacs. So probably you want to switch to yaced [1]. > 2) If I try open gnus from "yaced emacs" I get this: Oh, I see you tried yaced. :) > Loading help-fns...done > Loading gnus-start...done > Loading gnus-agent...done > Wrote /Users/mac/.newsrc-dribble > Gnus auto-save file exists. Do you want to read it? (y or n) > Reading /Users/mac/.newsrc.eld... > Reading active file from 192.168.1.134 via nntp... > Loading timezone...done > No new newsgroups > Checking new news... > byte-code: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 1. > Stop gnus, manually evaluate > gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus. > > Anyone know what that's about? When the error happens, do `M-x gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview' and restart Gnus. > 3) In mozilla thunderbird I enabled this option "Only show threads > with new postings" so it'll automatically show the whole thread *only > if* there are new replies in that thread. Threads where everything is > read won't be shown... > > This is really nice - is it possible to do something with gnus? Sure, that's the default. Did you set gnus-fetch-old-headers to anything? > 4) What's this ~/.newsrc-dribble file doing? It saves what you've read, scores and such. When you exit Gnus, this file will somehow be merged into .newsrc.eld. If Gnus/Emacs crashes, then it will be used to recover your session. Bye, Tassilo Footnotes: [1] http://yaced.sourceforge.net/ -- "Emacs is not a development tool but a way of life." - David Kastrup in alt.religion.emacs -